When will we get COVID 19 vaccine? - By Dr Edward Nazareth


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


By Dr Edward Nazareth

Nov 23: As the second wave of COVID19 is badly affecting many European countries, people are pinning their hope on the vaccine as a solution to the pandemic. In India, the number of new COVID 19 cases and deaths due to COVID 19 has declined in the last three weeks and the pandemic appears to have stabilized in most of the states. However, there is a rising trend in a few states. The possibility of a second wave cannot be ruled out. If a second wave does happen, it can be worse here as well, just like in Europe. India still has a long way to go because 90 per cent of the people are still susceptible to COVID19 infections. Like the rest of the world, we too are looking for an effective vaccine which can stop the spread of this infection.


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There have been a lot of reports about the success of two vaccines in the recent past. The Oxford COVID-19 vaccine that is backed by AstraZeneca and Pfizer-BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine are reported to be effective in more than 90% of the people who were incorporated for the trials. The early results indicate that at least these two vaccines are highly effective, several others have reached late-stage of trials, and many more are at some stage of development.

Still a long way to go

It has to be remembered that none of these vaccines are approved for use. There are lots of issues yet to be resolved.

A few more trials are required to prove that any of these vaccines are safe. The regulators must approve the vaccine before it can be given and facilities for large scale development must happen for the billions of potential doses. The researchers are yet to find out how long any possible protection may last. At least 60-70% of the global population need to be immune to stop the virus from spreading easily (herd immunity), even if the vaccine works perfectly.

There are also issues concerning the storage and transport. The vaccine developed by Pfizer-BioNTech may have to be stored at minus 70degree Celsius and once thawed it has to be used within two days where as the American based Moderna says its vaccine can be shipped at minus 20 degree Celsius and can be used for a week with normal refrigeration. The AstraZeneca-Oxford’s vaccine (known as Covishield in India), which will be manufactured in India by the Serum Institute will have to be refrigerated at 2-8 degrees Celsius. Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine stipulates storage at a temperature not higher than –18 degrees Celsius.

The vaccine doses seem to be expensive. The Pfizer vaccine costs about 20 dollars (Around Rs.1, 500) per dose and minimum two doses are required. Moderna has indicated that their vaccine will cost 37 dollars (more than Rs 2,750). Serum Institute of India has said the vaccine (Covishield) will cost between Rs 500 and Rs 600 per dose for the general public. In other parts, it is likely to cost less than 3
pounds a dose.

Success of trials and advance purchasing

The media reports of success of the vaccine are likely to be linked to advance purchasing by countries. It estimates that 6.4 billion doses of potential vaccines have already been bought and another 3.2 billion are under negotiations. The process of advance purchasing is a well established norm in the pharmaceutical industry, as it can help the development of products and fund trials. It appears there is some competition in the pharmaceutical companies to promote their vaccines. The extensive publicity in the media about the success of the trials is probably a part of the competition to promote advance purchasing.

We, the common people should not be carried away by the success reported in the trials and will have to wait for the day when a potential vaccine is available at a reasonable price. Though the political parties have promised free distribution of vaccines in the election manifestos, we know the election manifestos are promises that need not necessarily be fulfilled.

Which vaccine will be better?

Though there are several vaccine candidates, at the end of the race only three seem to have reached some conclusion. If the reported successes of trials are true, then the difference is in their method of manufacturing the vaccines, their effectiveness seem to be almost comparable. At present two modern methods are used to manufacture the vaccines.

To understand this, let me explain the basics of vaccines.

Vaccine is not a medicine that can kill the pathogen. It is a substance used to ‘educate’ the immune system of the human body to identify the pathogen and prepare ‘an appropriate weapon’ (antibody) for eliminating the pathogen. In this context, our immune system can be compared to the defense system of a country. The lymphocytes, a type of white blood cells are the soldiers of the immune system.

There is an important difference between the ‘soldiers’ of human defense system and the soldiers of any nation who defend it. The soldiers can identify the enemy easily, but the lymphocytes are to be trained to identify the enemy. If they are effectively trained, only then can they prepare the weapon called as ‘antibody’ and eliminate the specific enemy. These weapons then remain in the system for several months to years and in some cases for life.

The lymphocytes get trained for the first time when a real pathogen like COVID19 virus attacks the body. However, by the time lymphocytes identify the ‘enemy’ and manufacture the ‘antibody’ to eliminate the viruses, the viruses multiply and cause sickness.

Fortunately, the lymphocytes can also be trained if a weak or dead enemy is brought to their vicinity. The enemy may not produce the sickness, but lymphocytes prepare the weapon-antibody, which will be stored to eliminate the live enemy if they attack again. The lymphocytes can identify and prepare the antibody even if the ‘skin’ or ‘heart’ or even the ‘soul’ of the enemy is shown to them, they do not require entire body(or structure) of the pathogen. This is exactly what is done in vaccination.

Traditional vaccines: In vaccines used against measles, mumps, rubella, live but attenuated viruses of particular disease are used. In polio and rabies vaccines, inactivated (dead) viruses are used. In hepatitis B, influenza, purtusis only a small part of the virus is used.

Modern vaccines: The Oxford vaccine is made in a modern technique. Here, the enemy’s uniform is put on an ordinary civilian and shown to the lymphocyte. A civilian is brought, except for his under garments all his clothes are removed and he is dressed like an enemy. Now the lymphocyte can identify and remember how the enemy would look like.

The Oxford vaccine is manufactured by using a common cold virus from chimpanzees; about 20 per cent of the virus parts are removed. In the gap obtained in this process, the surface protein- spike protein (the uniform) of COVID19 virus is filled. Once inside a human body, these viruses do not produce sickness, but lymphocytes now know how the COVID 19 virus will look like. They prepare the antibody. Next time, when real COVID19 virus attacks, the lymphocytes will identify them by their uniform and eliminate them.

Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine is also manufactured in the same way. Here instead of viruses from Chimpanzees, two viruses that cause respiratory infections in humans are prepared and attenuated in the laboratory. These viruses do not multiply or cause sickness when injected. They are made to carry the spike protein of COVID 19 virus. (Similar to the analogy of uniform explained above).

In Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines a different and entirely new technique for vaccine preparation is used. The lymphocytes are not exposed to virus directly, but the soul of the virus (mRNA) is injected into the recipient (human body). By using the soul of the virus, the recipient prepares the uniform of the enemy and lymphocytes will be able to identify the enemy. This enemy is incomplete and cannot do any harm. The vaccine is known as mRNA vaccine. (This analogy is to understand, it is not the exact mechanism).

It is different, because rather than having the viral protein injected, a person receives genetic material – mRNA – that is similar to the viral protein. When these are injected, the muscle cells translate them to make the viral spike protein directly in the body. The virus material is prepared inside the recipient’s body. To make it simpler, when the mRNA prepared in the laboratory is injected, it invades the recipient’s cells, hijacks the cells’ protein and prepares the spike protein of COVID19 virus. This gives the immune system a preview of what the real virus looks like. As only the part of the virus is prepared, it will not cause sickness. This helps the immune system to prepare powerful antibodies that can neutralize the real virus if the individual is ever infected.

There is a saying in moral theology, ‘end doesn’t justify the means’. But when it comes to vaccination, only the end will decide which one is better and not how the vaccine is prepared. We will have to wait and watch to decide whether the Oxford vaccine, Sputnik V vaccine are better or Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines or some other vaccine will be better. The long term benefits and complications if any are to be studied.

COVID19 vaccines in India

American pharmaceutical company Pfizer Inc and its German partner BioNTech have claimed that their mRNA vaccine was found to be 95% effective in a late-stage trial, including in people aged over 65 years. On the other hand, Moderna Inc said its experimental vaccine, similar to that of Pfizer BioNTech vaccine was 94.5% effective in preventing COVID-19 based on interim data from a late-stage clinical trial. Both these firms have not entered into any deal with India as of now, and had it looked at any manufacturing facility.

Russia has claimed 92% effectiveness of its Sputnik V vaccine which will be marketed by Hyderabad-based Dr Reddy’s Laboratories in India. AstraZeneca-Oxford COVID 19 vaccine is reported to be better tolerated in older adults than in younger adults. It will be available from Serum Institute of India.

COVID 19 antibody has short life?

A large study from the United Kingdom had discovered that protective antibodies against the COVID 19, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19.

The research conducted at the Imperial College London, found that the number of people with detectable antibodies fell by about 26 percent within three months. This study supports the belief that corona virus antibodies wane rapidly, creating the risk of reinfections.

As we all know the seasonal, regular corona viruses that cause common colds that people can get reinfected over and over again. It is because people would not have protective antibodies that would last forever from natural disease. As per the data available the immunity from natural infection will not last for years and years but likely dwindle within two to three months.

As this is the case with real infection, it is very difficult to believe that the antibody from vaccines may last for long. It is not surprising that many of the researchers attached to trials of vaccines are silent on these facts.

More and more researches are needed to prove or disprove this. We may have to wait for at least one year to be sure on the longevity of the antibodies developed by vaccination.

Will these vaccines be safe in the long run?

In the recent (November 17, 2020) issue, The Lancet wrote, “Global efforts for development of a COVID-19 vaccine are yielding multiple results including some new and as yet unlicensed technologies. Reception of these vaccines by thesceptical public will challenge wide acceptance of new vaccines. Regulatory safety thresholds are a minimum bar that a product must pass to attain regulatory approval, but for the general public, cumulative safety experience will be important. Trust is earned with time, and with repeated experience. Vaccines have a long safety history, but COVID-19 vaccines are new.”

As for now, it appears that common people may not get these vaccines in the near future. By the time common people get the vaccine, in all probability, the virus might disappear by itself. Even if it persists, the long term effects of these vaccines will possibly be known.

In India Oxford COVID19 vaccine is likely to be used as it is less expensive. (Two doses may cost around Rs. 1,000). This vaccine appears to be relatively safer than mRNA vaccine. But, it is too premature to give any opinion on the safety of these vaccines.

According to Adar Poonawalla, CEO of Serum Institute of India the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine will be available for healthcare workers and elderly people by around February 2021 and for the general public by April.

It will probably take two or three years for every Indian to get inoculated, not just because of the supply constraints but because of the cost of the vaccine, logistics, infrastructure, and then, people should be willing to take the vaccine. There will be political hiccups supported by religious reasons against the use of vaccine. These are the factors that lead up to being able to vaccinate 80-90 per cent of the population. It will not be before 2024 that everybody, if willing to take a two-dose vaccine, will be vaccinated.

Not only are the efficacy and safety of the vaccines yet to be established, their availability is elusive. It may be prudent and easier to use a mask and use it properly, maintain social distance and other precautions till the virus leaves us than wait to go for vaccination.

 

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Mon, Nov 30 2020

    At least one volunteer has reported symptoms akin to Giulian Barre Syndrome & has sued SII for 5 crores with a plea to stop going ahead with the vaccine!

    Now, the onus falls on the vaccine producers to prove that serious symptoms immediately after taking the vaccine were not an after effect of the same!

    This fast track vaccine looks very risky as expected!

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Fri, Nov 27 2020

    New Delhi, Nov 27 (IANS): While pharmaceutical major Pfizer had made headlines on the release of their Covid-19 vaccine, its former Vice President and Chief Scientist has said that there is no need for any vaccines to bring the pandemic to an end.

    According to a report from lifesitenews.com, Dr Michael Yeadon, there is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I've never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines.

    "You do not vaccinate people who aren't at risk from the disease. You also don't set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn't been extensively tested on human subjects," Yeadon said.

    His comments come at the end of a comprehensive criticism of the Scientific Advisor Group for Emergencies (SAGE), a government agency of the UK.tasked with advising the central government in emergencies.

    SAGE has played a predominant role in determining public lockdown policies in the UK, including those recently implemented, as a response to the Covid-19 virus, according to lifesitenews.com.

    Yeadon also highlights fundamental errors by SAGE in their presuppositions which cause their overall conclusions to go radically awry leading to the "torturing the population for the last seven months or so."

    SAGE says everyone was susceptible and only seven have been infected. I think this is literally unbelievable. They have ignored all precedent in the field of immunological memory against respiratory viruses," he said.

    "They have either not seen or disregarded excellent quality work from numerous, world-leading clinical immunologists which show that around 30 per cent of the population had prior immunity," Yeadon added.

    Last Friday, Pfizer had announced it is seeking emergency approval from US regulators for its Covid-19 vaccine, which has shown 95 percent efficacy in a totality of two data sets released in the last 10 days.

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  • Naveen, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    Thank you for another informative article Doctor. The article is well researched and gives a holistic overview of the current developments with regard to the vaccine.

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  • Hashim, Mangalore / Doha

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    Vaccines are like 'allowing a burglar inside your home and getting yourself trained how to defend and fight!" Its so silly.

    One should rather prefer to strengthen the immune system to naturally fight off it if at all infected, in other words Mother Nature has her own vaccination program.

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  • Joe Gonsalves, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    Dr. Nazareth has all along taken a lot of interest to share his thoughts with the general public regarding the various medical situations. Present;y he is trying to share his realistic views regarding the vaccines.

    I have known Dr. Nazareth for along time and I am aware that he is A PEOPLES' PERSON. Always presenting his views and sharing his thoughts with others.

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    10 top drug launch disasters
    K-V Pharmaceuticals - Makena
    Dendreon - Provenge
    Human Genome Sciences - Benlysta
    Xenoport - Horizant
    Savient - Krystexxa
    Sanofi - Multaq
    Sanofi - Zaltrap
    Somaxon - Silenor
    AstraZeneca - Brilinta
    Rare Disease Therapeutics - Anascorp

    How to forget DePuys (Johnson & Johnson) subsidary who pushed in totally defective Hip replacements & made the life of so many sr. Citizens miserable and did not even give any compensation to the Indian patients unlike those of their counterparts in the US!

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    First give these vaccines to those who speak big about their efficacy & low side effects; and then push it on the masses as such fastracking a vaccine never in history is fraught with high risk!

    KINDLY READ ABOUT THE THALIDOMIDE TRAGEDY AND SO MANY MORE & RACK YOUR BRAINS!

    RECENTLY I READ ABOUT PFIZER MERGING WITH PEPSICO; DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT'S TRUE!

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    As per an online survey conducted by American Osteopathic Association this June, 45% Americans are worried about the safety of the vaccine. Their fears aren't totally unfounded considering the swine flue fiasco of 1976, when president Ford was in a hurry for a vaccine in view of his second term which he didn't get, but the vaccine side effects resulted in a serious neurological disorder Guillera Barre that claimed 450 lives and the vaccine was withdrawn.

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  • John, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    Vaccine itself a cause of recent polio outbreak in Africa...

    Following article on an outbreak where UN was forced to admit Gates-funded Vaccine is Causing Polio Outbreak in Africa


    "Health officials have now admitted that their plan to stop ‘wild’ polio is backfiring, as scores children are being paralyzed by a deadly strain of the pathogen derived from a live vaccine – causing a virulent wave of polio to spread"...

    Ref:
    https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/04/un-forced-to-admit-gates-funded-vaccine-is-causing-polio-outbreak-in-africa/

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Wed, Nov 25 2020

    *Guillain Barre . Typo regretted.

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Tue, Nov 24 2020

    In case of mRNA vaccine, 'the soul of the virus' (mRNA) is synthetic and not the one extracted from virus itself, if I'm not mistaken.

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman / Washington, DC.

    Tue, Nov 24 2020

    Correct....mRNA Vaccine is deceiving human body to produce anti-bodies to kill COVID-19 Virus .......in Indian legal terms IPC 420 cheating human bodies to produce anti-bodies to kill COVID-19 Virus....

    Everything is fair in War, Love and Vaccines as long as it achieves success....relax hat....you can start your normal activities in next few weeks if not months...

    Hasta la Vista....


    has·ta la vis·ta
    /ˌästə ˌlä ˈvēstə/
    exclamation
    goodbye; see you later.
    "hasta la vista and good luck"

    ...Tak...Tak...

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  • Ivan Saldanha, Mangalore.

    Tue, Nov 24 2020

    Indeed dear Dr. Nazareth, You have done well to again convey a realistic picture of the Vaccine conundrum.....I feel there are too many ifs and buts....It is probably risky to spread information and use the vaccine without proper certifications . It all needs a fixed amount of time just because Governments want it is a hurry , a miracle is not going to happen and "Water can not be turned to wine" just at the will of big wigs, as far as such matters are concerned. Hurry will cause many unpredictable and desired effects. caution is the better part of valor in such matters for sure. Thanks.

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  • C.G.Sequeira, Valencia

    Tue, Nov 24 2020

    Good information about Covid-19 vaccines. Thanks to Dr.Edward Nazareth for updating.

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  • John, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 24 2020

    With these high sensitivity PCR tests (with 40 times multiplications of minute viruses or fragments of virus),
    What if detect normal seasonal flu or previous years' corona viruses as Covid - 19 ? to shore up number of cases ? Inspite of low death rate? Anyways start of the winter cases will be high and there will be a second deadly wave (of mutated virus), but it seems to be vaccine lobby in full action to push their hurried tested, emergency approved vaccines whether they are effective or not also playing fear of virus through these previous and present number of virus cases.

    Some serious prophecies on motives of Global vaccination in the Book of Truth which is available online also free links of it as follows, ( Book of truth mentioned in the Bible, Dan 10:21)

    https://fatherofloveandmercy.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/global-vaccination-one-of-the-most-wicked-forms-of-genocides-ever-witnessed-since-the-deaths-of-the-jews-under-hitler/


    https://fatherofloveandmercy.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/global-plan-to-deplete-world-population-and-overthrow-world-leaders/

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  • Dorothy Rego, Toronto/Kaikamba

    Tue, Nov 24 2020

    Dear Dr. Nazareth
    Congratulations to you on your constant write ups about COVID-19. On a scientific note, you have conducted excellent review of all the relevant topics, analyzed the contents and executed your writing in very lay language. Very informative writing and can be easily understood by lay audience. In your most recent article, you could have touched base a bit on the role of GAVI, CEPI and COVAX facility (with particular emphasis on recent discussions with vaccine manufactures for procurement, roll out, prioritization and cost considerations to the LMIC’s to have equitable access).
    On a personal note, you used to be my bus mate in the early 90’s in Padmambika bus from Nandalike to Mangalore. I used to board this bus in Kaikamba and always used to admire at your reading skills. You would use your time very effectively in the bus by reading medicine books or the philosophical novels. This inspired me a lot in my life (even though we did not speak) and later transformed me into a public health professional. Keep up the good work.

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  • John, Mangalore

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Jesus on lies about vaccine cure rate and Pfizer's claim in a message to John Leary dated 9th and 10 th November 2020.

    Jesus said: ‘My people, I told you more people will die from the virus than the first time. They are proposing vaccines, but do not take them, because they are lying about the cure rate. You are seeing an investigation of the illegal ballots. I will allow the courts to judge these cases. It is very possible that a revolution will occur, and this is why you are seeing so many bodies buried in mass graves. This could even result in martial law. Again, if your lives are in danger, I will call My faithful to My refuges of safety. Trust in Me that I will protect My faithful from the evil ones.”

    Monday, November 9, 2020:
    ...
    Jesus said: “My people, you are facing two recent developments. One is President Trump is bringing his case of an illegal vote before the Supreme Court. The other development is that Pfizer is claiming it has a covid 19 vaccine with a 90% success rate. Any vaccine for covid 19 that is accepted, could cause a demand that everyone has to take the vaccine. This could mean a threat to your lives if you refuse to take the vaccine. Do not take the vaccine, even if they threaten to kill you. If they threaten you, you will have to come to the safety of My refuges. Your President can still win his election. The Supreme Court will decide on the facts of the election. Keep praying that your President can still win.”

    Ref:
    http://www.johnleary.com/index.php/?cat=3&order=DESC

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  • JNB, Bejai

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    It reminds us Baba Ramdevs Coronill2
    Full publicity given in Republics channel.

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman / Washington, DC.

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Dr Edward Nazareth,

    Planned/Projected start date of First Phase of US COVID-19 Vaccination is 11th December 2020 in ALL 50 States of US....this was stated by US COVID-19 Task Force Chief recently....

    In India Start date could be few weeks away from 11th of December 2020....We have bell...we have Cat....if US FDC approves it on 10th December...We will tie bell to CAT / COVID-19 from 11th December 2020 onwards....

    I am sure lot of nay sayer's will not like this and start mocking me...starting with my buddy Hat...So be it...

    ...Tak...Takk...

    ...

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  • Bhaskar, Mangalore

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Thank you again for an excellent common sense analysis of the Covid 19 vaccine situation here in India. It does indeed seem that many of us are unrealistically looking for a miracle panacea to end the pandemic here in India. You are again warning us that the vaccines may not be the immediate solution to the pandemic here in India, and that we should for the present rely more on our present available protocols. India seems to be among the leaders in investigating alternative medical treatments for Covid 19.
    It may be likely that the world population is being unduly influenced by exaggerated efficacy and availablity claims from the international drug companies ( Pfizer, Moderna, and others ) who stand to make tremendous profits for their shareholders. For example Gilead Pharmaceuticals announced the release of "Remdesivir" to the American public for late stage treatment of Covid 19 in May as it "reduced hospital stays by 3 days". The price of the stock soared to 68 dollars a share. The American government paid 150 crores ( 1.5 billion) dollars for 500,000 doses of Remdesivir. Many people around the world were then given Remdesivir for treatment of the virus, though there was no actual proof that it actually improved outcomes or survival in Covid 19 cases. The European Union ordered another 500,000 doses for 120 crores ( 1.2 billion) dollars last month.
    It was only on Friday, November 20, that the World Health Organization announced a warning to the medical establishments around the world against the use of Remdesivir for the treatment of Covid 19. They warned that they " found a lack of evidence that Remdesivir improved outcomes that matter to patients", and " the panel felt that the responsibility should be on demonstrating evidence of efficacy, which is not established by the currently available data". In other words, they are strongly suggesting that Remdesivir doesn't work.

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  • John, Mangalore

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Following video, Facts or Fiction: Covid-19 Vaccine is a detailed info on Covid Vaccine and recommendations by Renowned Dr Christiane Northrop.

    Also She says Vaccine modifies one's DNA...

    Good info for Doctors also, from this very experienced Doctor and for fact checking. (Instead of only listening to Vaccine industry.)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=APV7tTMMoaE

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  • Mervin Vaz, Yeyyadi/Texas

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Astrazaneca reported 62% to 90% Efficacy depending on how the 2 dose system is implemented. Hope to get vaccinated in Mid December by either Pfizer or Moderna. Moderna stock is skyrocketing after Astrazaneca reported lower Efficacy.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Reminds me of "Who is going to bell the Cat" ...

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  • Arif, Mangaluru

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Why the mainstream media is hell-bent upon their only version of "vaccine" for ending this pandemic. There are so many alternative medicines including Indian traditional medicines. Whey they are not exploring that angle? Why they are behind laboratory manufactured chemical vaccine mixed with some foetus of dead animals and also bacteria of Chimpanzees injecting into the veins and bloodstreams of human beings??? I was shocked when the Oxford research institute is using chimpanzee bacteria to prepare vaccine!!! Are they want to change the DNA structure of humans beings? or they want to reduce the immunity power?

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  • Jude, Mangalore

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    In the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, the adenovirus commonly found in chimpanzees is spiked with a protein found in the COVID-19 virus and is completely harmless in humans. Every vaccine uses a cell-lines to produce such carriers, in this case, the adenovirus. The cell-line used in the Oxford candidate is known as HEK-293 and is derived from the embryonic kidney cells of a child aborted in the Netherlands in the year 1973. It is said that the final vaccine product is refined to eliminate fetal tissue cells. At any rate, ends do not justify the means. It is not morally justifiable to use cell lines from a gruesome murder, no matter whether it was legally allowed, to produce an antidote for COVID-19. The facts I have stated is not a conspiracy theory and can be easily verified from public sources.

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  • Ajay Rebello, Kallianpur

    Mon, Nov 23 2020

    Thank you Dr Nazareth and Daijiworld. We are being promised a lot but most is just gas.

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