Scarf Row: Principal Lodges Complaint against 14 Students

RAJ, INDIA

Wed, Jul 25 2012

In gulf countries ladies wear this bUrkha & go with other people & enjoy .i want to ask what this is religion to spend time & you have to cover & do.....

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Justin Lobo, Bangalore

Wed, Jul 25 2012

@IMRAN, MANGALORE-JUBAIL
Schools and colleges are not beaches to uncover breasts.
In the beaches sun baath
Schools and colleges brain baath.

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IMRAN, MANGALORE-JUBAIL

Tue, Jul 24 2012

A woman can uncover her breasts on the beaches of the GOA but it is Prohibited for covering her head by wearing scarf on the campus of Ramakunjeshwara College?

but who are the perverts who are making these issues of BURKHA BAN?

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M. H. Rashid,, Udupi, KSA

Tue, Jul 24 2012

G M Hegde, Udupi
“Religion is secondary. Progress, development of country comes first. The country needs our skills and contribution, not our religion and fundamentalism. We all must be equal and live as equals and leave our religion inside our house when we leave “
Excellent thinking, we are all with you but LET THE MAJORITY LEAD BY LEAVING THE RELIGION INSIDE THE HOUSE WHEN THEY LEAVE SURLY MINORITIES WILL FOLLOW.

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Anil sagri, Udupi

Tue, Jul 24 2012

welldon fahez...

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G M Hegde, Udupi

Tue, Jul 24 2012

A park opposite my house in Bangalore where mothers and children visit every evening to play had new visitors supposedly four women of a family including a servant some of whose husbands work in Dubai and who are supposedly Byaris and hence we were their first friends due to bonding of Tulu. I have noticed that when the whole family of 4 women dressed in Black burkhas, except the servant who does not wear a burkha, visit the park along with some of their male relatives once or twice a week the whole park is empty due to their presence, but other days when the servant, also a Byari, who does not wear a burkha visits the park along with the children, the park is filled. The servant also visits others houses and others also leave their children with her to go shopping nearby. I must admit that even we feel awkward when 4 women come dressed in burkhas. I always wonder why they want to show that they are different. Why cant they be like everyone else. Why does the servant not feel like wearing a Burkha? Another incident was when my friend and his wife accompanied us on our visit to singapore, malaysia, the friends wife was wearing jeans and T-shirt all along till the plane reached Malaysia, she put on a black burkha surprising all of us and making us uncomfortable. I often ask myself is this hypocrisy. I would like to appeal to all to forget all this. Religion is secondary. Progress, development of country comes first. The country needs our skills and contribution, not our religion and fundamentalism. We all must be equal and live as equals and leave our religion inside our house when we leave..

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Jyothi Kumari, Mangalore

Tue, Jul 24 2012

Hello Shaad you have brought a very good point in telling that even the hindus wear scarf in anjuman College. Do you know y? your college is a muslim college and it want to impose the muslim culture and it is doing it. the non muslims abide the rules of the college and act accordingly without raising their voice aganist the management. Second point dont you feel ashamed of urself to speak just bad things against the principal whom you hardly know. Not all human beings look at a girl in the same way like how you feel. Mayb it is the culture and ur family background that is making you feel this way. dont you feel so? sorry u cannot help it in anyways. Dont give hasty comments and highlight the situations of muslim community and make people generalize. next time use your brains at the right time and in the right way.

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Arun, Mumbai

Tue, Jul 24 2012

Good decision by Principal,,hats off u. It is Hindusthan, We will support u Sir, Vande Mataram, Jai Sri RAM...Bajarangdal ki jai

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Robert George, Dubai

Tue, Jul 24 2012

Muslim girls who participated in the protest against the burka ban by colleges must understand that many claiming to be religious authorities are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Initially, they appeal to the religious fervor of Muslim women, subduing their minds and finally suppressing them entirely. It’s sad that the women follow unsuspectingly and eventually fall victims of diktats. In fact, these false religious leaders are doing disservice to Islam.

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Justin Lobo, Bangalore

Tue, Jul 24 2012

@ Bulsam, Mangalore, Yours:/Extremist Hindu organisations have warned Indian Muslims to accept Hinduisation or face the same fate as the Muslims of Spain./

How the occupiers entered and what they did to Spaniards?
The extremists entered Spain to terrorize through the sword.
Lastly through the sword reverted. Tit for Tat.
Hindus and Christians compelled to take the sword.
Followers of sword causes death toll everywhere

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rahul, mangalore

Tue, Jul 24 2012

GOOD JOB MANAGEMENT,PLEASE THROW ALL STUDENTS INVOLVED, THIS IS SECULAR COUNTRY SO GOOD JOB MANAGMENT FOR TAKING BOLD AND SECULAR DECISION , ALLA BLESS YOU

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Bulsam, Mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Mr. Ravi, I respect your points but are the Muslims to blame for this?
Let the Govt, police, judiciary, Govt departments, educational institutions… strictly follow our constitution, respect human rights, follow Sachar Committee and bring in inclusive growth and you see the changes. Muslims are not interested in lip sympathy, Haj subsidy, Loud-speaker in mosques, puppet Presidents, CMs… They expect unbiased opportunities and growth and nothing more or less. Please teach in schools Geetha for Hindus, sing Vande mathram for Hindus, place Hindu god’s picture in Hindu offices, conduct Hindu festivals in Hindu premises but don’t force Hindu sentiments on non-Hindus and in public places.
In Indian part of Kashmir, the paradise on earth, reports from Indian human rights organizations indicate a reign of terror, mass murder, rape, arson and destruction and the helpless Kashmiris are bearing it for years.
Generations of Indians grew up learning distorted history and anti-Muslim propaganda. The state-run television of secular democratic India constantly shows programs from Hindu mythology glorifying war against non-Hindus. All minorities, including lower-caste Hindus, are discriminated against in recruitment by law-enforcement agencies. Unless measures are taken to eradicate these root causes, the intolerant Hindu majority will hate Muslims.
My anguish is at anti-Muslim pogroms in India, well-planned attacks on Muslim homes and businesses. They will turn into full-scale genocide if the world fails to take notice, as when Pol Pot's regime massacred millions in Cambodia. Extremist Hindu organisations have warned Indian Muslims to accept Hinduisation or face the same fate as the Muslims of Spain.
United we stand…
Jai Hind!

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, BVannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

I would like to enlighten to some of the commentators who point out CHRISTIAN NUNS who are wearing Head covering and a modest dress.
Kindly see below:
Are those nuns who are wearing are similar to burqa and naqaab?! See the pictures of burqua wearing females from this news article from top 2, 4,5,10, 11, 13 and 15. Are the nuns closing their faces, and dragging their cloaks on the roads?!

Christian nuns have chosen the attire before they enter into a particular/their own chosen congregation LEAVING ASIDE THEIR FATHER, MOTHER, BROTHERS, SISTERS, RELATIVES, FRIENDS AND THEIR INHERITANCE TO SERVE GOD AND HUMANITY.

Hence the congregation which they have entered in to and the attire which they have chosen was not by compulsion but of by their own free will.

Despite the above, now a day’s some congregation’s nuns are not wearing head covering instead they wear Saari or may be in the future they may wear Salvaar Kahmees with Dhupatta. (Kindly note: mere wearing a Saari or a Salvaar Kahmeees with Dhupatta will never cover everything but dressing modestly).

God never says or said not to show their faces and cover fully and show only the eyes. Christian women are to cover their head only when they prophesize or in a prayer house or when they worship.
Hence Christian women are not necessarily to cover her head and wear compulsorily always when she is out of the prayer or out of worshipping house.

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Sunil, Mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

@Shahid, Jubail

Here again you are just commenting here by just reading one comments to justify you. If you people are so interested in your muslim law to follow...just follow everything written in it..don't choose the law and follow according to your convenience here. For more information and your knowledge read the comments of "Don, Mangalore" and reply.

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paddu, mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Jai ho Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurka....

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M H Rashid, Udupi, KSA

Mon, Jul 23 2012

N. Frank, KSA.
I like your comment “Let us make India a home for all religions, by sacrificing a little, give and take, so the question of whether India is for Hindu's, Muslims or Christians will not arise”
There is nothing wrong in compromising in order to boost the communal harmony and I am sure people will be ready to do that if this is limited to scarf alone. But the question is not the SCARF here, if compromised on scarf, there will be birth of another issue, and you compromise on that, third, fourth, fifth and endless issues will come up and surely this will be extended to religious practice of other minorities too.

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Kaizer, Saudi:Mlore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Kushan don't use provocative speech , we are not in a Hindu country we are living In a democratic country and you dint have rights to force anyone on religious obligations and rahi baat following you, we would love to follow if you follow peace but the present scenario doesn't suit the word peace

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M H Rashid, Udupi, KSA

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Prakash Mangalore,
An excellent and unbiased comment from you.

Kishan mangalore,
Your comment " your shadow cannot be traced in Hindustan" I know you are trying to do that since last 1400 years, but Alhamdulillah more you supress,it will inflate and shine more. Mind it

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ravindra, mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Principal has done good thing. Better dismiss all such recalcitrant students and settle the issue once for all. It should also be a lesson to outside anti national elements which are supporting the movement.

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Pramod Naik, Kundapura

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Hey muslim students very good move by you all.Please intensify the protest! Even if you lose another year no problem at all because you must make sure that you win this battle! You have already kept your foot forward and there is no point in turning back! Remember you are the heroes of a Scarf Revolution and this scarf rule should be implemented throughout Hindustan by all muslim girls.So dont care if you lose a year of your studies or more than that.Just keep protesting outside the college campus! I want you to win this battle as it is a secular country for you people.If you back out now then all your maana maryadi is gone to drain! So dont leave keep fighting!!! Studies can be done later also ! Victories are important GO FOR IT!!! Jaya Karnataka :-)

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prakash, mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

I think this issue should be solved amicably, they must put down the points in the school prospectus and let the people choose what they want. Or they must have some uniform for all.I am not sure if the fight is against wearing the head scarf or face veil? if its about head scarf i think its ok to wear it dont harm any one yet keeps the religious obligations, but if the fight is for keeping face veil, then school/college must explain methodically what is causing them to go against, is it the identifications, is it the security reasons etc?? or is it some one may misuse this privacy by ease to conceal the identity. Therefore all can understand each others concerns.

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Shahid, Jubail

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Frank, we are not immitating, its muslim law, a girl shuould wear his veil, its unfortunate still u dint get hidayath, after all living in one of worlds top muslim country, i hope u will reveal truth soon.

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Kishan, Mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

We Hindu are not communal, if you people want us to do, than you people will not be spared, even your shadow cannot be traced in HINDUSTHAN. Mind it.

Leave and let live !!!!!!!!!
World need peace, and we people are following it, even you guys follow us. Jai Hind.....

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Lancelot N Tauro, Manglore - Doha Qatar

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Manglorean,Mangalore I agree with your points about student's career, which applicable both KFD n ABVP..
Dear student pls take prior permission and written approval from DC and RTO before you block the road and traffic flow.

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Sunil, Mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

@Chemmi/kannur, Kannur and Kaizar/Saudi
Christians are now well educated and smart thinkers and most of all soft in nature. They always support “the right” and oppose “the wrong” without considering the religion, caste or community.
Hindus are always of the soft nature people and Christians support them. In the past when Christians were attacked, all knows very well that what was the reason of attack. But the ultimate sufferers are the roman catholic Christians without any reason or wrong doing. But that reason catholics could understand but never forget that incident in their life and can never forgive them for what they did.
On the other hand, Muslims are always neglected by other communities because of their own nature. They blindly support their community people when there is any differences between a muslim vs hindu, whether the muslim person is right or wrong. Secondly, no one is against muslim religion here, they have every right to follow. But it seems they propaganda the world their religion to be every good and in turn they never follow the basic ethics and philosophy of their religion. Thirdly, muslims just concentrate on quantity and numbers rather than quality upbringing of their community.
In conclusion I would say muslim community has lost its own image of ethics. They are not at all worth to trust for any kind of relationships.

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Kaizer, Saudi/mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Raj I know which place I belong and I an proud to be an Indian. No one is talking about jihad it is uninvited controversy which I neither commented nor want to. You should be ashamed o yourself

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N. Frank, India/Ksa

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Dear kaizer, saudi

Salam Alaikum. There is a lot of difference in the thinking of Indian Muslims and Muslims of Muslim countries, on day to day living issues. The base my views, is Saudi Arabia.

Indian Muslims mostly want to immitate and please their counterparts in the Gulf, so follow their traditions and customs in India as well, even though they may cause inconvinience to others.

But the Muslims in Muslim countries dont base their thinking to please Indian Muslims, but follow customs and tradtions to suit their environment.

In my experience in Saudi. The Saudi's (Private sector) prefer to employ Indian non Muslims to Indian Muslims. Indian non Muslims get on very well with the Saudi's be it private or Govt sector.

If you compare Indian Muslim wommen with Pakistan, Pakistani Muslim wommen are bold, out going smart, many of them dont wear, abaya, burka or even scarf.

Please watch good morning Pakistan show, you will understand what I mean.

For many non Indian Muslims, apart from Muslims from Hyderabad, rest of the Muslims in India are strangers

Indian Muslims should integrate with Indian customs, traditions wihout compromising with their religious commitments.

It is true for christians as well. But christians have Indianised many of their customs.

Indians whatever religion they may belong to, should think in terms of India, to live in a way without causing incovinience to others. Let us make India a home for all reigions, by sacrificing a little, give and take, so the question of whether India is for Hindu's, Muslims or christians will not arise

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Raj, Udupi

Mon, Jul 23 2012

kaizer, saudi.....First make sure which counrty you belong too.....
Person like you who dont know the meaning of Muslim and Jihad.....And your taking about Hindus.........Shame on you.

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RAJ ULLAL, MANGALORE

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/Mumbai the college principal will sort out this issue. He doesnt need any advice from you.

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kaizer, saudi

Mon, Jul 23 2012

dear narahari,
If you take such actions no one would want to go ahead with their education, One of my friend has been trying to get a Govt job through all source and later learnt that he is not thru coz he is a muslim and it was told by a hindu PROFESSOR. In saudi you can find many non muslims working for govt sector with high post. Come down here and see if womens are working or not

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Ramesh, manglore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

..Very well written Mr.Ravi...but soon you will be dubbed as non secular, RSS agent, BD member or RS chela...this a eye opener for all Hindus..Eventhough regular bashing by so called secular parties, Hindus keep silence always..they never think they are vote bank for any particular party, but it is not in the case of minorities..minority atrocities never get a lead story...But, time will come sooner or later when majorities will raise their voice & up with arms, then these politician wil not get place to hide..

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Raj, Udupi

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Poor student's now your hired group will not come to police station or court.......
ಮಾಡಿದ್ದುಣ್ಣೋ ಮಾರಾಯ.

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kaizer, saudi

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Raj first learn what hindu is , hindu is neither a religion nor a caste , the actual meaning of hindu is, one who is from hindustan in hindu.INDIA is a secular country and mind it , it is not beacuse hindus are in INDIA , dont come up with your own ideology,
DEAR DAIJI please publish my comments, as i can see many of comments are not been published in contrary to my comments.

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Raj, Udupi

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Rizwan, Udupi........Secular my foot........Its called Hindustan because of Hindus.

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Rizwan, Udupi

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Dear Ravi, India not a Hindu country, it's Secular country mind it.

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Roshan Braganza, Udyavar / Mumbai

Mon, Jul 23 2012

@ravi , katapady / mumbai , your views are right and appreciated. But these laws are drafted keeping in mind communal uprising during independence time , even gandhiji feared it! . As for concessions , i wish it becomes equal for all religions and pilgrimages. But all hindu personal laws are amended and highly biased against men. Eg : hindu marriage act , any layman can understand , how viscious its against men!. Men are rstricted to one wife. In other words , men are bulldozed by feminists. Muslims and other religions have gender neutral personel laws.

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Bulsam, Mangalore

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Rakesh dear, we are not in Rome like situation here in India.
Go through the history of India and than try to understand that it has the world's second largest Muslim population and they will not take it lying down.

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ravi, Katapadi/Mumbai

Mon, Jul 23 2012

There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country which provides Haj subsidy. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India? Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority. Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has d a 'fatwa' against terrorists. Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry , etc. have in the past elected Muslims as CM’s, …..

Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim - majority J&K? In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in Pakistan was about 24% ….Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30% …. Today it is about 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights? In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% today …whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991.

Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists? In India today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and madrasas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loud speakers that there is no God except Allah? When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura And Kashi?

Why Gandhiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds. When in January 1948 he pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the Mosques of Delhi at government expenses? Why Gandhi supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got? If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar etc., are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?

When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar are taxed? When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, …. Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan in our schools? Do you admit that Hindus do have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves The problem? Why post - Godhra is blown out of proportion, when no-one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir? Do you consider that - Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular, Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Imam is secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr.Praveen Bhai Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, VandeMatharam is communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular, Hinduism is C

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Roshan Braganza, Udyavar / Mumbai

Mon, Jul 23 2012

Muslims have evry right to practise their culture and shariat laws here in india , as its democratic country . One should be noted that many women from every religion ( christian women in church ) in mid 20 th century used to wear head scarf . It was very common , even now in some communities. Rise of feminism started to rise the question mark on scarf. But muslims still practise it , so its good!

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Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/Mumbai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Sri Ramakunjeshwara Degree College Principal's intentions are malicious. He is creating Law and Order problems in Mangalore......

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chemmi/kannur, Kannur

Sun, Jul 22 2012

When all christian brothers supporting the step of principal vasanth Rao, Just think of it if your nuns are forced to remove scarf will u be stand idle or go for protest.. When they attack churches around karnataka u people are pleading for minority support by saying they attacking minority, why it turned reverse just think of it. its your habbit to dodge use the benifit of situation.. Remember u people still r not safe.. next time they attack ur home and then u go pleading help of minority community

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Narahari S, Uppinangady

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Dear Kaizer Dubai,
India is a democratic and secular country and every body gets job irrespective of their religion or gender. Its not like your Islamic countries where jobs are meant only for Muslims(most jobs only for men too) Secondly, here most of muslims are not getting jobs because most of you don't go for education or leave half way either because they think its against your religion or you feel it might lead you go away from the religion. and girls in your religion you don't want to mix up with the people Always keep away from other people and once they reach puberty you marry them. Mostly think they meant only for creating children Therefore, your number is less in Government jobs. So In general wherever go or live, you show your religious identity That's why you are back. That's what happening here in Ramakunjeshwar college. Your girls doesn't want to mix with other students(and also in dress code)which let them backward. Come on guys , grow up a little

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lancy pinto, mangalore/doha qatar

Sun, Jul 22 2012

With my personal reasoning I cannot understand why personal choice of wearing scarf which protects the modesty of girls in addition to wearing the standard uniform should become a blown out issue. I fail to understand as to how the image and decorum of an institution will be effected by wearing or not wearing a scarf as long as students concentrate on academics and developing harmony in a multi cultural and multi religious or whatever varieties. Children must wear neat, comfortable and modest clothes which must be basic requirement.

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Mangalorean, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Mohammed, which organization are you talking of `KFD` which I feel is playing with muslim sentiments and are mostly uneducated persons who try to run our community. Did you read the comments when Muslim central committee members when to find a solution, KFD members whoa re UNEDUCATED and ARROGANT called them traitors etc when they should know by stopping students from college they will spoil the future for other children not thiers.

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Krishna Poojary, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

kaizer, saudi... nuns are commited with religious service but not this girls who get married to her own brother sooner or later.

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zameer, mlore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Referring to Guwahati's molestation case where a teenage girl was publicly grabbed and molested by a group of over 20 persons, Madhya Pradesh minister Kailash Vijayvargiya today said that women should dress up in dignified manner to avoid such incidents.
the people who were making comments blindly pls see yahoo news there is a vedeo of women's dress code.RSS people are making these issues according to their agenda but unfortunate is some of our fellow daiji readers commenting blindly without thinking consequences!

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M.kiran, m'lore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Rules are rules,, even hindhu girls are not allowed to wear shirt and pant,its compulsory in MBA , but if you want to be in an equal society,
let them do all the religion formalities at home and after there studies ,,,no one will mind

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ravindra, mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Outside elements are poisoning innocents children. My children went to Christian School, there were restrictions in wearing bindi and flowers etc which we followed very strictly. My children used to go to church nearby and used to seed blessing of god. But we never objected since, we have not seen God, we believed any sort of worship is ok. so much so, my children got very good education and very well settled in their life. But, situation now is totally different and does augur well to anybody.

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Jafer, Ullal

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Enough is Enough... It is the time to direct confrontation... PFI should directly step into act.. No need to expect help from other.. Allah is enough for us....

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Derek, Balmatta

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Kaiser ( Saudi)....

Nuns are religious people. They live a life of celibacy and devotion to God. So do not get them into this picture.

To spell it out..they do not get married and do not have multiple wives/ husbands.

Try your antics in Saudi where you live before you comment.

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Sahil, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

All here who are in favor of college. Can you answer my one question.
What is wrong if a girl wants to wear a head scarf to protect her modesty.. What is that irritating

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Stan, dubai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Dubai is Muslim country and I frequently visited Knowledge village ( all Educational College Hub) But I have not seen a single student wearing scarf. This is only politics. The Bad Politics in India only.

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murthy, mangalore/duabi

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Principal did a good job. One who doesnt respect the law of the land should treated as triator.
India based on indian culture. That should be followed.
Vande Matharam....
Jai Hind

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Gurudath, M'lore/Mumbai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Turkey a Muslim country bans head scarves for ladies in its public institutions like schools, colleges and government offices. In India too I am certain that most of the Muslim girls would like to be others.

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shaad, bhatkal

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Principal and other mangagment, and their own people must understand that woman body and man body is different in their shapes.

Women in particular and in general wants more cover.

In our anjuman college, even non muslim wear dupatta, coveing theirbody head, shoulder etc and etc.

1 day 1 non muslim girl without dupatta enterd class room, everybody's attention divert to her. Some looking drectly, some by sight eyes.

So frankly,dupatta and scarf protecting girls from bad glimpse.

It is wonderable that pricepal not accepting these depmand, principal want to take advantage and and enjoy.

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Janajagrath , USA

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Even while on protesting they cover they are faces , a good face mask for all kind of crimes ,how can a democratic country can allow this ,and that too in an educational surrounding ,they want to create they are own rules for their privileges .

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Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Two decades back when I was in Aloysius College, a classmate use to be absent on Friday afternoon regularly. Our Class Lecturer noticed this atitude & asked the reason for absence, & was shocked to notice that he was attending namaz at the cost of his own class. Lecturer clearly pointed out that it may be his religious rights, but in any educational institution ones he joins, he is bound by rules already laid, & so he couldn't be given any grace attendance or mark present for his absence. Naturally, he had to go by the rules & be like other students (attent regularly), or else he will face attendence shortage in the end of year.

This is another controversy like burkha, wherein student tries hectically to bow the rules of institution before his religious rights. Clear message is necessary now as this problem is repeating in most of educational institutions. Student should be clearly made to read the rules at the time of joining. If he/she is unwilling, then they can go to other institution which cater their taste. No need of spoiling or defaming any educational institutions, as at same time the carrier of other students will be in danger because of this insane activity by few students. Education first, Religious belief next in education.

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khan, manglore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

principal is wrong. scarf is right of muslim women&girls.

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khan, manglore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

tell me our national bird name frist

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Kishore M, mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

In order to maintain uniformity in schools & colleges let the government ban head scarf, burqa, turban, sword, bindi , janeev etc… The rule should not be restricted to any particular community or religion and this should be applicable to all. Let the student concentrate on their studies only.

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Bhaskar Marnad, Moodbidri-Muscat

Sun, Jul 22 2012

I am sharing here one of the incident that took place when i was a student. We too protested against the College Management for certain issue and strike has take place and college was closed for a week or so, all college student union supported us, students from neighbouring college supported us, that time we felt that we are heros fighting for justice. At last with lots of negotiation college has reopened, the subject for which we fought has lost its importance, unions one by one started disappear at the end of accadamic year we got the sumunse from the court for 12 students that we gone for strike with out permison, when case is registred in court no body is there for our support, no unions and we suffered 6 years to attend the court proceedings and mean time we lost many Govt jobs ans opportunity to go abroad, at the end even case is d in our favour but the actual punishment we got that attendig to the court proceedings and getting the date for next proceeding and waiting in court for our turn from 11 am to 5.30 pm is the real funishement. Deat students don't come under the imprestion that union will suport to you in your deeds. I must say only the your achivement will give you the sucess. Please read the prospectus of each college before joing and enjoy the student life with accadamic achivements......

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Shameer, Athoor/ uppinangadi

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Hi Harold I belong to the place where the present scenario is been taken place. The protest is not led by any organization it's all political and media conspiracy leading to all confusion. I agree to your point that we are Indians and thats the reason we are protesting for the rights. We had gone thru all the formalities ad mentioned by you but our effort went on vain. Hence the extreme step has been taken.

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Allen, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

All these so called students who take part in this type of unlawful activities should be barred from admission for the next academic year, then only they will learn discipline. Management should not budge for this kind of threats posed by these groups and goons behind it.

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Harold D'cunha, Manglore, India

Sun, Jul 22 2012

The protest by the KFD at Sri Ramakunjeshwara Degree College is unwarranted and the logic is beyond one’s imagination. It is a issue of some of the students of local Sri Ramakunjeshwara College over dress code and scrap wearing.

This issue is in between the students and College body. The aggrieved students/ parents and teachers/Principal with the involvement of respected local personality should have sorted out the issue. Now being the protest has involved by students of outside the local territory and done by one religion group, then what the College Principal of Sri Ramakunjeshwara Degree College, lodging a complaint at Kadaba police station is not at all wrong.
Wrong approach by both students/Principal had lead to all these confusion. Provocation led by groups who sit withiin the 4 walls and for this, the unnecessary trauma, price will be paid by those, who fall prey to this.

Religion is opium to society. Reliigon should be within the 4 walls. First we are Indians and one's religion is secondary. In Rome be like a Romans and in India, be like a Hindustani. Jai Hind.

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Sunil, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

I am extreemely impressed with the comments of Don, Mangalore. I agree with all of his points considering in general. He has explained each and every points in detail about what is happening around.

I request everyone who have commented here please read this comments and then say your opinion.

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Ashley Menezes, Mangalore / Riyadh Ksa.

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Comments on this silly issue shows the hollowness of the Scarf Supporters. I Appreciate the Comments of DON (Mangalore) and RAKESH (DBX) and DEMAND that the Scarf-Supporters do READ them throughly. JAI HIND !

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Godwin Sequeira, Riyadh/KSA/Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Dear Don/Mangalore,

Hat's off for your excellent and for your detailed comments. I do agree with you. I rate this is the best comment of this matter. Many thanks.

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MANGALOREAN, MANGALORE

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Right move from Principal, If any student not followed School / College Rules than these students must be restigated. Jai Ho.....

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Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

Sun, Jul 22 2012

S. M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, udupi

Read my comments. You will get answer. First of all these people are not intersted in studies. Don't unnecessarily blame others for your fault.

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S. M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, udupi

Sun, Jul 22 2012

The Student Union asking religion justice on wearing scarf like "Sikh Community" and they marched very peacfully. Every body knows this college management are sanghapariwar mentality now they lodged cases in same reason means they are muslims. This college construted under muslim welfare support now the managemnt showing their real face.

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Rakesh, Dubai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

“When you are in Rome do what the Romans do”

Yesterday one of the top UAE news paper carried an article “Saudi Arabia will deport any foreigner caught eating or drinking food in public during Ramadan” now students can we apply your funda here?

Yes, Indian population is growing that does not mean we should have separate college(s) for Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc. Also no School / University prospectus can anticipate every circumstance or question about the future, it is our understanding and how we deal with the situation.

Parents take care of your children, do not digest all their needs without questioning else you will pay for their mistakes. Every second there are changes in the world, remember “Time and tide wait for no man”, your hard earned money is going down the drain. Do not dream of a Doctor or Engineer if your child is taking part in such silly strikes.

Finally children if you are very much concerned about what you are allowed to wear or where you will be seated then the best option is going for a distance education or an online degree.

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fahez, dubai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Dear friends come gulf then you will understand here there is no religious matter how they growing in india there is no result after 100 years also as it is before shame on us so we called educated

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Mubeen, Mangalore/Dubai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

What is wrong to wear Scarf.Before going for protest students are requested the rights but managment is not aggreed.So no choice other then protest.Go students we have full choice to fight our rights.India is a democratic country not a caste wise country or state.God will help you all. All the best.

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Kamal Taiyyeb, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

The principal Mr. Vasanth Rao is not acting on his own. He is a puppet in the hands of the Sangh Parivar and is patronised by the BJP ruling party at the state. People like Kalladka Prabhakara Bhatta are after this whole episode. It has become a question of prestige for him. He knows that he is wrong but is not allowed to act as per his conscience. This is really sad for a secular democracy.

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Don, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

According to the Hadiths/Sunnah of the prophet of Islam wearing of headscarf was prescribed for his wives only, but later when Sharia Law was introduced all Muslim women had to wear the scarf as part of the Islamic dress code.

In India we live in a secular democratic society and all citizens enjoy the freedoms and obligations that come with democracy. But Muslims living in a democratic set up take all privileges of democracy, but then start mixing and matching only exclusive Sharia laws that suit them, like their woman wearing the headscarf’s and marrying multiple wives.

So if a Muslim wants to have his Sharia law he should take all of it, so when a Muslim commits adultery, theft or murder they should also be tried as per Sharia and stoned to death or flogged for adultery, hands to be chopped off in case of theft, or beheaded if they kill. But no, that’s when Muslims want democracy and within the framework of democracy talk about their religious rights.

Many Muslims have argued that it is their fundamental rights to wear the scarf and I agree, but in the same breath I would continue that why don’t you realize that others have fundamental rights too? Would a Muslim tolerate a non-Muslims to come to their institutions and change their rules and laws to suit them?

Hence, if a Muslim would like to work for a non-Muslim company or study in their institutions then you should follow the rules or simply don’t go there, just set up you own institutions and enforce your own set of rules. But it is sheer nonsense that in the quest to have your rules (Sharia Law) you are willing to break other’s rules, so that you have your way!!

In conclusion, when Islam clashes with Democracy or any other forms of government, rules of institution etc all other rules become null and void and that government or institution MUST give way and Sharia Law should prevail and this is wrong and not acceptable to any Indian who believes in true democracy and freedom.

Jai Hind

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saleem, Uppala / Dubai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Head scarf should be banned , Let them wear hjab ( Burka ) not with hiddeb faces . it will lead lot of nonsense in the society . Pupil should respect school laws .

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mohammed , mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

This not bcoz of scarf, goal behind this to make muslims girls uneducated.now were this women organisation,when RSS did the god job by ataking pubs all organisation came to protect.For muslims there is no organisation sopport.

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Ashok, Udupi/Dubai

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Dear Principal Hats off to you. YOu have done a great job. Let them go to Madrasa. If Principal lost this case , I will send my son with Doti , Kaccha & Topi for sure. Also I will advice my friends to do the same. In democracy one should do what is acceptable to Mejority. Even govt is formed on this basis.

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George Belman, Belman

Sun, Jul 22 2012

>>Kaizer, Saudi Sunday, July 22, 2012
Vasanth rao is backed by sangh parivar and for your kind information you have alleged to divide the college into religion , we are just fighting for our rights.

Kaizer: this is grand coming from someone who is in Saudi. Since you live in Saudi, do you dare challenge laws of Saudi? I know of my aunt (a christian) who was not allowed to drive or go to market on her own. She did not complain and simply returned to India. I find it interesting that of all the people you as someone living in a country like Saudi find it fit to comment on school authorities for enforcing uniform! Oh the irony.

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Ramesh , mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

..Mr.Suhail..now u realise it is a small issue..then why CFI has brought the folks from all over the place...why it interfered in the matter, when managemnt & parents body had meeting & try to settle the issue peacefully...why CFI has not taken prior permission & tried to break the college gate...why parents of some muslim students recieving threatening calls as reported in UDAYAVANI daily...Thankfully locals has restrained from doing any harm to to these goons...

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Ramesh, mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

..Good move by college authority..when the management & local jamath has issued statement that they will settle the issue considering students future, what CFI have business there..CFI want some recognition so doing nusance which was backslashed..Locals have already threatened that if any anybody tries to create chaos, they will be not spared...better CFI do some constructive works rather than distructive..finally, it was learned that there is no such student union called'UNIVERSITY SARVA COLLEGE SANGHA'..

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Suman, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Veil or scraf or burkha is ok in desert regions like Middle east, Rajasthan etc to protect from the sunshine. Please don follow it blindly everywhere...grow up.

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G R PRABHU, BEJAI ,MANGALORE

Sun, Jul 22 2012

College administration must clearly mention in their hand book regarding the rules & dress code in their college. If one student agrees the terms,then only he must join the college.After religion should not come as obstruction . Religion is separate and education is separate.Don't mix this.

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KRPrabhu, Mangalore/Bangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

@Kaizer,Saudi
What is wrong if Principal Vasatha Rao seeks Sangha Parivar's support.It is much much metter than anti national outfit PFI and KFD ourely trouble mongers.Thank god,college administration is tollerent and maintaining its cool.

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kaizer, saudi

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Dear Sunil Dsouza, if govt pose a ban on wearing hijab for everyone including nuns will you protest or quit the country.
Dinesh Poojary is portraying the scene other way round, we are not getting job in any organizations, you all get job in government or private scetors without any hassles. It is we have to go through a long process to acclaim reserved job or reserved educational seats.

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KRPrabhu, Mangalore/Bangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Right and democretic step by Sri Vasantha Rao,Pricipal of the college.Natives should support the Principal in the larger interest of soceity in general and students in particula .Students who are voilating the rules of the college and agitating using filthy language against College admn should be shown the doors.Let them go to college of their wish to suit their religious agenda.Those who are instigating the students of minority group of this college are doing so at their onw risk of rendering the current acedemic useless/waste.
I request the Principal and other authorities NOT TO BUDGE for the undemocredit demands of the students take steps to cub interference by OUSIDERS with heavy hand.Self respect is more important than the bugding to demand of the trouble mongers.

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Sunil D'Souza, Mumbai / Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Perhaps if they really have a problem with not wearing a scarf. Why dont they quit this school and look for some other Muslim schools for admission.........Simple as that if they dont like the school rules then they are welcome to quit the school and look for a school of their choice......why make all this fuss and demonstration.

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Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

Sun, Jul 22 2012

They are not coming for education for sure. They don't need education and employment. Bcz they will get employment in their organizations.

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Rakesh shetty, mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

VERY GOOD MOVE. DISMISS ALL STUDENTS WITHOUT ANY HESITATION.

NO NEED ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION. STUDENTS ARE STUDENTS. THEY ARE COMING FOR ONLY STUDY PURPOSE. THEY MUST FOLLOW AND ACT AS PER COLLEGE RULE.

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Kaizer, Saudi

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Vasanth rao is backed by sangh parivar and for your kind information you have alleged to divide the college into religion , we are just fighting for our rights.

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suhail, mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Using abusive words for a teacher is not a sign of a good student...It is to be condemned...but You would never hear of a Principal lodging police complaint against his own students for using derogatory words......Shame on you Mr Vasanth Rao...Being a Principal you could not handle such a small issue

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Valson Mendonsa, Mangalore/USA

Sun, Jul 22 2012

Things are changing in BJP ruled states,when religion comes in school door step.. that means, this is a very serious issue and need to dealt with iron rod and should not repeat again

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Krishna Poojary, Mangalore

Sun, Jul 22 2012

This is the right step... this students should be brought to the court for causing disturbance for other students and to the teachers.

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