Puttur: Slander against church priest, Bishop - court orders criminal case

Thu, Sep 14 2017 08:45:11 AM

Daijiworld Media Network - Puttur (SP)

Puttur, Sep 14: A court here has directed Uppinangady police to file criminal case against some persons who have been accused of indulging in malicious campaign against former priest of St John Baptist Church at Kokkada, and Bishop of the diocese.

Some persons had levelled certain allegations against former priest of the church Fr Ronald Lobo, Bishop of Mangalore diocese Dr Aloysius Paul D'Souza, and parish council of the church. The names of the accused have been given as Jonson Gulbao from Ankadamajalu, Lawrence Madtha from Mandegundi, Molly Stella from Vodralke, Maxim Pinto from Miyala, E P Chacko from Kaukrady, Wilson Royal Lobo from Boladabail, and Richard Fernandes from Paddadka, it is said.

Dr Aloysius Paul D'Souza & Fr Ronald Lobo

The persons named above have been accused of launching slanderous campaign through the media against the former priest of the church, parish council, and Bishop of the diocese. They also have been accused of threatening to lock the church. A complaint filed in the court had said that these acts of the accused have hurt the religious feelings of the people and damaged the reputation of the church.

Mangaluru-based advocate, P P Hegde, had appeared on behalf of the church and placed arguments.

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Evlalia De Sa, Kulshekar Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Why are these church leaders going for a criminal case? We all know what happens. Umpteen times people have to roam around courts and public humiliation when the lawyers of opposite side grill the complainants. Is accusing the priests of misusing some funds a serious offence.? There is no need for a criminal complaint since there is more harm than good. So, let those indulging in false propaganda be counselled and they should be made to publicly apologize for their misdemeanor.

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DON, Udupi
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Modern day Priests are not saints.
Earn respect through accountability and service

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tom cat, mumbai , manglore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Dear Bishop & parish priest shame on both, remember 30 years ago a similar thing happened in Christ the king church Malleswaram, Bangalore result is, it became a big issue and snowballed in Kannada and Tamil language issue in the church.

And it still continues now in the form of Konkani and Kannada language issue. The church closed for a long time an Archbishop Arokyaswamy transferred a Tamil priest defrocked for playing politics and finally Konkani priests injured.

We never know how this will turn into. The clergy is for the laity(followers) and not vice versa.
Mostly the clergy behaves like there is no one to question them and this is wrong.

I request the clergy to behave or you people will be in the same place like it in Europe where churches are sold to become mosques or malls. Don't be misguided by some selfish legalistic people.

"Man against man, God for all"

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John Tauro, M'luru / Kwt
Thu, Sep 14 2017
It’s unfortunate this feud in the congregation now reached the court. Let truth prevail and let there be fair justice.

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Fred Fernandes, Moodubelle / Boston USA
Thu, Sep 14 2017
This matter would have been best reconciled within the Church as the teachings of Jesus Christ emphasize reconciliation in our life. I have great respect for our Bishop of Mangalore who is a Shepherd of the Church, representing Jesus the Good Shepherd. Putting himself in the feet of Jesus, he should not have taken the matter to the court instead keep the flock together in prayers and reconciliation. In the Gospel of Mathew 18:15-17, Jesus says: “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector".

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JAGDISH, mumbai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
SO SAD

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Merwin, Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
When religious leaders become builders such things happen. This may be the tip of an iceberg. Let the truth prevail.

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Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
There must be some compelling reason for the accused to oppose the said priest so doggedly!!

Most prefer to gossip from behind, but those few who take up cudgels to expose the truth r "isolated" by the community as they always want to be in the good books n follow the crowd!!

"There is no smoke without fire"

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Alwyn, Canada
Thu, Sep 14 2017
I totally with church. Forgive until last breath but sometime you have to forgive and also make the person realize of their fault before it gets too late. Once they realized it for sure forgive them otherwise it will be like mad dog biting every time. Communal goonda did it in the past for our churches in mlore and now another bunch of fake follower of christ try to do the same. Once these bunch of anti church realize their mistakes for sure priest and bishop will forgive them. Priesthood is not a easy to manage. They have sacrificed everything to serve the god. Why these bunch of unfaithfull create mess in our churches . Shame on you. Ego and power hungry idiots try to work hard to spoil christ name. Only god will decide your fate. I will pray for your wisdom to grow and serve like christ to society. Stop troubling priests and bishop and parishioners.

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Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Bro,
Voice of dissent/questioning/opposition, an integral part of a democratic process, is increasingly being suppressed down by pressure or force by the powerful n mighty!

Gauri Lankesh, Baliga, Dhabolkar, Kalaburgi, etc r a few examples!!

Though the above examples pertain to other communities, it is the universal TREND!!

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CHRISTINE, MANGALORE
Thu, Sep 14 2017
we understood reading all the comments Bishop and FAther should not go for court for this matter. Call one day night vigil. we all will come and pray for them. Large number of People who believe in Christ will attend and pray during night vijil God will surely hear our prayers and do miracles.

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Rajesh D, Manglore, Dubai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
I fully agree with you, we all should have faith in prayer / God. There is a lot of difference between just a lip prayer and praying form your heart.

When our churches were attacked in 2008, message from concerned people should have passed to all the churches / parishioners in Mangalore Dioceses i.e. to kneel down and pray either at home or in church (depends on situation) till we were relieved . Unfortunately only worldly decisions were taken.

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Rita, Germany
Thu, Sep 14 2017
@Christine mangalore,Praying is always good.But there are istances that the only prayers dont help and it should be openly cleared .what are the slander against catholic church and the priest should be openly discussed.I dont say who is innocent and who is a saint.We all are humans,when one make some changes ,others will misunderstand.There are people who only wait with a leaf and salt to spread it.Nowadays media is helping them.Church and its community is a thorn in eye for them we want to clear open.Just think what had happened in Bangalore, priest was killed by whoom.?many pro and contra.Now you can pray to be solved in peace and right.

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RONALD DSOUZA, KINNIGOLI
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Jesus said If your brother makes mistakes go and tell him directly. Still he doesnt listern then take one or two witnesses with you and explain his mistake. Still if he doesnt listern leave him alone. You and your openent when on the way to court compromise with him . But what this news gives us the message . Are we are practicing according to our preaching. Very sad to hear such news. Still time is there. This matter can be settled amicably.

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Jerry, MANGALURU
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Hello Ronald, very good teaching that you have picked up from the Bible. However, to interpret Holy Teaching, we need to learn about it first in depth, one can speak on one Word for days together. Half cooked Holy Scripture interpretation is the major cause of religious disasters today.

Pastoral Mission is guided by religious scholars and I am sure, this decision has been taken after all the Sacramental and Religious Wisdom practices followed by the Church and its teaching.

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Pulimunchi, Bahrain
Thu, Sep 14 2017
It's perplexing to watch the turn of events. Yesterday we nailed Akshar Boliyamajal, today this news. No wonder forgiveness is not everyone's cup of coffee. It requires a magnanimous heart, which we mortals lack.

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Rajesh D, Manglore, Dubai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Administration and Spirituality are entirely two different things though both play important role in this world.

Administration is an intellectual exercise that stretches the brain and helps to take better decision in this world. We car hire intellectuals with the high moral qualities for the same.

Spirituality is an exercise that stretches the heart, developing one’s capacity for a different kind of love. God is full of Love and Forgiveness.

People who are devoted to spirituality and have taken oath, would be better continue with the oath till the death. This applies to all religion.

We all are human beings, everyone makes mistake, show them love and they will change their heart.

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Naveen, kulshekar Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Practice what you preach ...forgive and forget and move on this was there in the past now only making money and developing family income . this is happening most of the church today . god only as to save us our most of the priest are always busy they wont have time for the people . If people visit them there also they busy . but they are free for rich people anytime and any where.

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Thomas Valder, Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Naveen Kulshekar, you are complaining that Priests have no time for people. May I ask you how much time do people give to Priests ? You will remember Priests only when you are in need of their help. Spare some time and visit the Priests and ask them about their welfare as they live alone. You are asking to forgive and forget. Does it applies to Priests only or to people as well ? If it applies to you also to forgive and forget, why you complain about priests ? You also forgive and forget. Why you or me couldn't be priest ? Remember, everyone can not be a priest doesn't matter how much you try, unless you are chosen by Jesus himself. Please stop accusing priests who are chosen by Jesus and if at all they are erring, they are answerable to Jesus. Peace be with you brother Naveen.

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Noel Palimar, Palimar/Avaral Kopala
Thu, Sep 14 2017
1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. Forgive and Forget. Teach the truth and truth will set you free.

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Pradeep Pinto, Dubai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
We believe those priests are in the place of Jesus Christ, if they filled the case against these people then they are totally wrong, then what is the meaning of forgiveness which Jesus Christ preached??? If they can’t forgive these people how they can become the role model to the society. New life protestant Etc. are the result of such type of behavior from the priest.
Luke 6:27
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

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sudarhsan, ganjimut
Thu, Sep 14 2017
All Money game. Money talk.

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Peter, KSA
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Sudarshan, money game doesn't last long. The case of Asaram, Ram Rahim, Nithyananda etc. proved it.

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Flavian dsouza, chik/bengaluru
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Practice what you preach ...forgive and forget and move on

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Suman, Padil Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
I just cant believe they have appointed one of the famous criminal lawyers in Mangalore to fight their case instead of looking for some senior catholic lawyers.

If they are right then they should not go for such a expensive lawyer.

This gives more suspicion.

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Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
This is an internal matter.
Please resolve this immediately before outsiders put their dirty noses ...

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Vishal, Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
There was a time when priests, along with doctors and teachers commanded respect and reverence from people from all walks of life. Times have changed now. Most of the doctors no longer have retained that respect due to the unethical practices they follow, teachers have started losing their respect and cases of priests following corrupt practices are on the rise. These are the people little children look up to and they should be role models for all to follow. Just as there is no smoke without fire, allegations may have their roots somewhere. I am not talking about the present case. This is a general statement.

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Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Thank GOD…. In this case none of the RSS or BJP or VHP or any other NGO or Association was not involved…. Else people would have bombarded in the name of NaMo too… Wrong to malign anyone if it is not correct…. But nothing wrong if it is wrong!!! In general….this kind of accusations are common for all especially if you act as Trustee, Managing of any religious works or function, Head of any religious place, etc, etc. So need to act and work carefully, honestly and most consciously too and then rest will leave it up to GOD because we can’t lock the mouth of people who talk rubbish

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Ajith Dcosta, Kundapura / Muscat
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Not happy with the developments, Church administrators should have had meeting and settled the issue before going to the courts. Our teaching never tells us to sue rather forgive even the enemy, here we have to forgive our own brother-en.

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Ron John P., Mluru
Thu, Sep 14 2017
You are right Mr. Ajith
Sure, here our people have gone wrong; not even respecting the basic principles of King Solomon's Wisdom ..... if not Christ.

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Aron Mathias, Karkala
Thu, Sep 14 2017
well said and I agree with you 100%. As our holy fathers they should be knowing Matthew 18:15 - If your brother sins against you, go and confront him privately. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. And Luke 17:4 Even if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times returns to say, 'I repent,' you must forgive him." Forgive them and move on in life doing better things and leave blessed short life which is given by Almighty.

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Pinto, Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
agree with u...
we need to see this in all angles... Church authorities can also committ mistakes blunders ... there r also holy people... we can sense that deviation from the Christ teachings...
It has money to buy good lawyers but where as they ???
It also knows to silence the voices when their mistakes pointed out ... so finally, whoever committs mistake it's a mistake whether he is holy or sinner, rich or poor, any for that matter

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Vincent Rodrigues, Bengaluru/Katapadi
Thu, Sep 14 2017
The mistake need to be brought to the notice of the person who committed this act and a kind of warning too

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CHRISTINE, MANGALORE
Thu, Sep 14 2017
JESUS SAID FROM THE CROSS, FATHER THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING FORGIVE THEM.
FORGIVE THEM AND PRAY FOR THEM KNOW. LET THEY BECOME PAUL INSTEAD OF SAUL.
YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD. SHOW THEM LIGHT .

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
WHERE IS THE FORGIVENESS YOU PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL.

Matthew 18:21-22

Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

COURT IS NOT THE CUP OF TEA FOR THE BELIEVERS.
CHURCH IS THE DECISION MAKER AND THE COURT.

ET TU BRUTE.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
CHURCH = WE THE PEOPLE, THE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST.

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Tom Cat, palghar
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Would they do it if RSS supported elements had done so. Soft targets.

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hemanth, Bangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Why do you drag RSS in this?.

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Ron John P., Mluru
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Dear Mr. Hemanth, Bangalore, Please do not worry.
This is just an example set up ; a prerogative.
This example is used just to convenience our religious people better.
I mean to say that we worry about powerful people and to the weak people
ready to take them court instead of forgiving as our Lord Preached.

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Arthur H. D'Souza, Balkunje-Mulki
Thu, Sep 14 2017
Some people apply Christ's Teaching on this very sensitive delicate issue. What the offended party
doing here is Reason out with these people (who started this propaganda against honorable Clergy
without any RHYME or REASON.
Confronting them will escalate the situation - let the court hear both sides. The proof is in the pudding.
General Public and all those involved NOW CAN TELL the Judge and let him/her decide. When the
TRUTH comes out the guilty party must apologize and move on.
Other scenario where ONE MUST SHOW the other CHEEK will not convince many doubting Thomases!
Those who know the Bishop and the Priest(s) will tell you the work-load the clergy carries day in and
day out.
The court encounter will be peaceful and both parties will walk away convinced of the wrong-doing
if any.
I would love to see in this day and age ONE of US (any one for that matter) put up with slander and abuse yet show the other CHEEK!
Some of us have a tendency to accuse DO-GOODERS of ulterior motives when there is NONE!
May God GUIDE ALL INVOLVED and REWARD them WISDOM and COURAGE to be TRUTHFUL so we PRAY.

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David Pais, Mangalore
Thu, Sep 14 2017
@Arthur H. D'Souza, Balkunje-Mulki, bishop & priests should stay out from commercial & cultural activities. work load would halve. priests r chosen 4 God's work. judas failed from da treasury money.

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Evlalia De Sa, Kulshekar Mangalore

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