Bengaluru: Govt justifies proposed survey of churches, says 'it is for community's development'


Daijiworld Media Network - Bengaluru (SP)

Bengaluru, Dec 4: The state government justified its decision to hold a survey of churches operating in the state in the high court. It said that the directorate of minorities has been instructed to conduct this survey with the specific aim of developing the Christian community.

The government had, through a circular dated July 7, 2021, instructed the directorate of minorities to collect information on churches in Karnataka. An organization, People's Union for Civil Liberties, had approached the high court with public interest litigation, seeking to quash this circular.

The public interest litigation came before a division bench of the high court presided over by Chief Justice Rituraj Awasthi where the government strongly defended its stands

The government in its statement said that the directorate of minorities has been given the work of minority welfare in the state. It said that the directorate looks after the work of welfare of minorities, their development construction of community halls, repair, renovation, residential school and non-residential schools, hostel construction, repair of churches, Gurdwars, Jain Basadis and extending financial assistance to orphanages etc.

 

 

 

  

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  • Vishanth Kumar, Manjeshwar

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Let all the religious assets be under government control. Let there be auditing of all the funds available . And should equally used for the development of the country and human beings.

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  • Satish, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Government should complete the survey. A clear picture will emerge.

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  • Deshbhakt, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Yesss. The survey should be completed and results should be like that politician who said an entire village and his mother were forcefully converted - only to be proved wrong.

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  • Veer, Nagpur

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    ‘Community’s Development’ What a Joke?!?!?!?!?!……At the moment BJP is interested only in Christian community’s development?????……This reason is to dodge the law and make thier entry into churches which is again illegal and against the law. BJP’s intentions are not transparent but are filled with malice and self satisfying for vested interest. It’s not Community Development and never was but is Community Destruction. BJP doesn’t do any social development but it’s own vote bank development.

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  • Ronald D, Udupi

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Why not conduct survey on majority people of Karnataka studied and reached good stage in life due to the institutions run by church?? Hardly anyone admits they prospered by catholic education and the disciplines! Many beneficiaries are jealous lots and backstabbers today! Bommai govt is openly showing they are supporters of sangies and moral policing!

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  • Herman, Mulki / Mumbai

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    The government should carefully take step with regard what it intends to do with sudden taking a survey of churches. If it really wants to do something good, it can approach Archbishop's house, as it has all records of catholic churches in state. Please do not come under pressure of some groups whose intention is only spoil the environment with in communities and come under wrath of the christian community which has a biggest role in education, service and healthcare.

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  • Shuba, Mangaluru

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    If the government is really interested in the development of minorities then we have church authorities viz. Arch Bishops and other superiors under whose advise and preaching the churches are operating. Hence the Govt can approach the supreme head of the minorities and conclude what better methods be required by them. Why the authority to intervene in the functioning of such places.

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  • John D'Silva, Bahrain

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Who will believe this statement ? After BJP government came into power Bajrang dal and sang parivar organizations were attacking churches and convents across India including Karnataka.

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  • Citizen, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    What more can you expect from an incompetent govt. Which is only busy with attention to hide their failures...Which is least interested in development and issues concerning the common man. This statement is abunch of lies by there jokers, who are only intetested in harassing minorites and are least interestedin their development.People and courts are not fools to believe in tgeir falsehoods and its a matter of time before people show the door to the bjeaypee

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  • Sahil, Mangaluru

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Present governement devolopement only ghanta...

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  • mohan prabhu, mangalore/canada

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Not just ghanta, but gointa. The government is giving "lame" excuses for a well thought out plan. Did any of the minority Christian organizations asked it to help improve their lot?

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  • H. Almeida., Bendur/Andheri.

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Readers, only the guilty have to fear the law.. wonder why is the hierarchy of the church is so flabbergasted about the anti conversion bill ???

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  • John Pinto, Belman

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Very simple example. 702 farmers died during farmers protest. According to government no one died. No data. Enchina panper duplicate porbule?

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  • H. Almeida., Bendur/Andheri.

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Dude !! Are you aware that more then 25,000, farmers committed suicide in my state of Maharashtra ???

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  • Veer, Nagpur

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    During your CM Fadnavis’s time and yet you don’t know number of farmers died??????

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    4 farmers nothing from chaiwala. he goes on touring foreign countries in citizens tax paid money.

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  • Deshbhakt, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Almeida, the government is justifying Churches' survey because it take care of minorities upliftment (as detailed in the news, I am not repeating it all over again). In that case, isn't the government also taking care of Hindu religion's upliftment ? Is the government not not obligated to declare survey/and the results of Hindu temples also ? Is it declaring how many have come into Hindu religion ? Why aren't all temples surveyed too, and the figure is made public ?

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  • Jeevan., Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    This fake Almeida does not know where people write their surname as Almeida and where else they write D'Almeida. Another Lower Car Street troller?

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  • Ajay Rebello, Kallianpur

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Should ask why we took development grant from govt and then thanked and praised govt.

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    govt., gave Christian developments aid becoz of da damages done in church attacks in karnataka.

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  • Babu Shenoy, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    For the overall development of the country it will be useful to conduct a survey of the bank accounts and all the assets of the ruling party MLAs from time to time.

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  • Jd, Mlr

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    On the dot.

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  • Jacintha, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Very true , survey on all political leaders bank account and asset for small and big politician will definitely help improve our country, irrespective of parties

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  • Harold Dcunha, Mangalore, India.

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    When the entire Karnataka State Christian community does not approve Survey of churches as they do not trust the government on this move, how can the Karnataka government can say that, the church survey is for the community development. Very strange.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Raheja Waterfront

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Development of own Pocket ...

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  • francis lobo, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Many people are asking repeatedly for the caste survey in the state and country. But both the governments are doing it for many years. The survey would have given real benefits to the poor people . What benefits the Christian survey will give to the community. If so why not for all communities,they can also get benefitted

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  • A.M. Belma, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Where are the leaders of the Bhaima Congress??? Not even a whimper from them! . Perhaps a press conference on Monday ?? Whose turn is it BTW? Mr, Ramanath Rai I guess.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Raheja Waterfront

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Government Develops only Ambani & Adani ...

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  • Robert Rodrigues, Muscat

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    There is nothing to say other than ALL THE DIFFICULTIES AND PROBLEMS STARTED BY BRINGING UP BJP IN POWER

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  • Sanjay, HEBRI

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Honest people should not worry about surveys....only con people should worry...

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    there should not have a prejudiced & chosen survey. trust deficit of da pettha gobernment.

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  • Jacintha, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    The one who preaching must check his honesty as much received for comment

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  • Darshit, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Have some shame! Don't be a slave of communal monsters. Christians haven't done you any harm to spew venom against Christians everyday in this forum as you are doing continuously. You probably learnt English in a Christian school or someone in your family must be getting getting education there, the website where you are freely posting your anti-Christian comments are also owned by a Christian!

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  • Deshbhakt, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Wells aid !

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  • Sanjay, Hebri

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Lol...why are you getting angry? Why are you worried about surveys? Where were ever i have learnt English its my personal issue, i have learnt it in my country, not like foreigners who are trying to impose on us....take a break, if you have problems with hindus in india, you are in with real problem.

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    @sanjai, hebri, y da govt is worried about da survey of christians?! is christian population 79%i n india?! y da govt., is feared of a minute no's of christians?! is da gobernment brainless.

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  • Alwyn Dsouza, Canada

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Your father and grandfather are studied in Christian schools. Thanks for that. Survey required on development of the country not on religious churches or its congregation. Christian's are developing India not karnataka government has any funds to develop Christian. It is a shame of such people thinking about developing christianity. We Christian's are already developing many non Christians through our own money. Its shame of those has nothing but thinking about developing us. Utter shame.

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  • H.A. Dsouza, Damoh

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Dear Sanjay Honesty ! Majority of Christian's are Honest. Pls. Stop writing the date because calendar also based on Lord JESUS. Forced conversion is a lie.

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  • El En Tea, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    POKKADE eyewash.... Better make use of that money to conduct the survey of Covid19 deaths and compensation.

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  • Varun, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Is the Govt have so much free time and resources to conduct this futile survey.. is it just one of the method to intimidate Christian community of karnataka? Every citizen irrespective of religious identity including atheists have right to practice what they believe in...

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  • El En Tea, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    POKKADE eyewash.... Better make use of that money to conduct the survey of Covid19 deaths and compensation.

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  • Shankar, Mangaluru

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Christian community has given a lot to this country. The country and the state is indebted. Please allow the state government to give something back. Let the survey be done. Even in this developed community, if there are any shortfalls, the government will fulfil.

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  • Alfria, Manglore/Mumbai

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Shankar you agreed that Christian has done a lot for the country and community than why don't you condemn when churches are attacked and Christians persecuted. For your kind information church knows to take care of itself and people and Christians don't need the help. Everyone knows what the hidden agenda of government is. If government is so interested in surveys let them survey who has no food to eat and give them help.

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  • Shankar, Mangaluru

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    I do condemn any kind of attacks.

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  • Mangalorean, Kudla

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Why cant? When govt controlling Hindu temples, Why cant govt do surveys of churches ? Let them do, Why fear? transparency required !

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  • Darshit, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Two wrongs do not make one right! Did the Christians ask the government to control the temples or do they even support it? Why should the government meddle in the affairs of Christians? Is it a democracy or dictatorship? Christians do not need government development aid. In a democratic country, government is not our ruler, they are there only to serve the people. And oppressing minorities is not what they are elected for.

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  • Ozy, Surathkal

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Oh my God what a statement that it's for the development of Christian community. In fact Christian community developed rest of the communities in India.

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  • real kujuma, kodial

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    come on buzdil community ke logon...time for you people to come out of the shell and fight like crusades against the chaddis plot ...dont be coward like savarkar..but be bold like Napolean...Jaag jao...

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  • Sheriff F, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    ...also add. Stop being online heros!!! Do not expect others to fight for you! Internet Karsevaking has got it owns limitations!!!

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  • John Tauro, j.tauro@yahoo.com

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    We least expect others to fight for us. Except for a handful of our selfish politicians the majority in the community supported CAA. The church as an institution is transparent. Again a few church elders (if any) who have unaccounted hidden treasures are concerned about the survey. Those who toil day and night for a decent living have nothing to worry.

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  • Harold Dcunha, Mangalore, India.

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    John, One should always guard against wolf , who disguise themselves in sheep cover.

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  • Harold Dcunha, Mangalore, India.

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    We porbus, first should stop eating pork meat; which kills the instinct to be always alert and kills the fighting spirit. What is required here is, one should be bold like Nepolean and wise like Ex PM ManMohan Singh.

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  • Jack, Mangalore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    What is the connection between pork eating and laziness. Entire China is consuming pork, so that means they are lazy?

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  • sanjay pinto, manglaore

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    in the first place you are not a porbu for sure.......... as a porbu or anyone who has eaten pork (there are many in other religions also)..... will never advise not to eat because it is simply the best meat...over any other meat...secondly...if you tell pork makes man lazy,,,for your good information world class footballers from latin and south america eat dried pork before matches for energy....so keep your desert cult mentality to your self..and grow up..now go and steal cows...

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  • Harold Dcunha, Mangalore, India.

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    Sanjay, Take European Countries, which are developed and which are which are trying to cope up with others. The Scandinavian Countries are beef eaters and there is hardly any unemployment. They control the some trade & industry, for which even USA could not compete with them. Do not be like frog in the well. Your language speaks about yourself.

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  • Rita, Germany

    Sun, Dec 05 2021

    Sanjay Pinto Mangalore please ,now dont go out of the actuell thema.From survey of churches to Pork meat.One who enjoys the meat let them eat,Beef is so wie so cant eat.Pork is anyway a meat ,everyone enjoys from beginning and easy to get.whareas now on thema of survey ,let them do ,because when someone complains about forced conversion ,why only temples have to give up their money etc.Govt.must go through it.But by us they will not find anything I am sure.Govt is eyeing about our health institutes,colleges etc.why should we fight between ourselves.?let us be united and watch what happens as next.Real truth will comeout .

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  • Ramamurthy Nazereth, dubai

    Sat, Dec 04 2021

    We porbus are only paper tigers...

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  • Jacintha, Mangalore

    Sun, Dec 05 2021

    Nazereth, what do you mean by paper tiger, Christian are not uncultured like chanddi gang or bhakths where they go and beat and vandalize any prayer group without valid proof saying conversion taking place. Our church and prayer places are open to all. if someone joining prayer group does not mean he is converted where as we have institution and proper channel where issues are address in peaceful and legitimate ways. if we behave like jobless bhakh and chaddi gang what is the difference between them and us

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