Indians are Hardworking, Non-offensive, Mild-natured people – Australian Prof


Udupi: Indians are Hardworking, Non-offensive, Mild-natured people – Australian Prof

Divvy Kant Upadhyay, Manipal
Daijiworld Media Network - Udupi/Manipal (GA)

Udupi, Jun 23: Live. Learn. Grow. Three words tagged with the official ‘Study in Australia’ campaign. For a country where close to 80,000 Indians study, the alleged racist attacks on a few of them may have brutally destroyed the faith in those three words.

Prof David Lovell, Head, School of Humanities and Social Sciences at the University of New South Wales (ADFA Canberra Campus) shares the growing concern in an exclusive interview. Prof Lovell feels that the recent spate of attacks and the Indian media actively pursuing the issue is bound to dent the image of Australia as a preferred choice for higher education among students. “Although newspaper editorials in India have been balanced but I can sense pervasive feelings about Australia having become a dangerous place,” says the professor of politics hoping that “the quicker this gets over the better.”

On his first visit to India, Prof Lovell is “appalled” by the “highly deplorable” incidents because he feels “in Australia the general perception about Indians is that they are hardworking, non-offensive, mild natured, friendly people.” According to him, these attacks may have been racist in nature apart from being opportunistic crime. He explains, “Indian students attain substantial academic success and are a hard working lot; many of them may take up part-time jobs to meet their expenses. There is some amount of bitterness among the local population about such jobs going to the emigrants and students from outside. This bitterness combined with racist overtones and an inclination to commit crime may well be the reason leading to these attacks. Indian students working at odd hours and preferring the congested distant suburbs for the advantage of lower rents may have made them a vulnerable population.”

Rough estimates indicate one out of every five people in Australia is born outside it. This is not the first time the word racism is being attached to Australia. Prof Lovell hints racism might have a stronger history in Australia. “Australia is essentially an emigrant population, having begun as a European colony,” he says. Geographically it has a strange and distant location, thus always creating a sense of insecurity arising out of the constant fear of isolation. Australia has seen waves of emigrants from the Southern Europeans in 50s to the South East Asians in 70s and Chinese and Middle Eastern Muslims in 80/90s. Children of these emigrants are known to have performed brilliantly making best use of opportunities offered by the government. “Few decades ago we did have a notorious ‘White Australia’ policy, but thankfully now we have an official multi-cultural acceptance policy,” says the professor who feels that Australians are accommodating towards emigrants. Referring to politics-his area of expertise, Prof Lovell admits that Australia has ignored the ‘Giant’ that India is. His concern is evident when he says “India does not have the profile it deserves in Australia”.

On his first visit to India to explore possibilities of establishing links with the Manipal University in the field of Geopolitics and International Relations, Prof Lovell feels India and Australia should be logical partners. Listing facts that can act as ‘synergies’ between India and Australia, Prof Lovell points out that both nations are democracies, communicate easily in English, are open market economies apart from being essentially cricket crazy nations. One then wonders how China grew to be Australia’s strongest trade partner. Not just trade, more than 130-140 thousand Chinese students are pursuing their higher education in Australia.

Prof Lovell feels China opened up to the world much before India did and Australia caught up with it. “With China having a communist and authoritative background, a democratic and free market India is a better choice any day,” says Prof Lovell hinting that Australia needs to pay more attention to the situation in the Indian sub-continent and acknowledge the larger role India plays in Asia Pacific Security.

At Manipal University, Prof Lovell held talks with the head of department of Geopolitics Dr Aravind Kumar to establish academic links in areas like maritime security, nuclear issues, weapons of mass destruction, regional security architecture, international relations and global politics. The Manipal University already has a Memorandum of Understanding with the University of New South Wales which was ranked at 45 in the much-acclaimed Times List of World’s Best Universities last year. He also met Dr M V Kamath to discuss student and faculty exchanges between the Journalism and mass communication colleges of the two Universities.

  

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  • Thilak Shetty, Dubai, Mangalore

    Fri, Jun 26 2009

    Ms. Shahnawaz, I never defended the police acts. What I wanted to say is dragging that issue in every non related discussion forums even after 8 months. Indian police are well known for their brutality but you people are waking up only when minority is targeted.

    We have seen police brutality in Dharmastal also but we people are not reminding those incidents everyday in every forum. As you told stone throwing is not retaliation to police act, rather than I can say police retaliated against stone throwing. If protests are peacefull then who gathered stones.

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  • shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

    Thu, Jun 25 2009

    Mr Tilak Shetty/Mangalore, Dubai. You are over reacting. You always defend the action of police who manhadled the peaceful christian protests to voice their grievance against church attacks. Just tell me do these christians dont have the right to protest? Have you seen the video shoot ? Dont defend the police here and in this scenario.

    Please watch the video pause by pause. You shall witness, police getting inside the church and beating men, women and children who were praying, dragging the devotees out of church, breaking the glass panels of windows of the church by the butt of the guns.

    As a retaliation any body would throw stones. Its not a big issue. Police have acted against humanity. Dont defend their action. Be just and reasonable in your comments.

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  • Seshu, Hyderabad

    Thu, Jun 25 2009

    SO MANY PEOPLE HATE RACISM, SO MANY STAND AGAINST IT, SO MANY SUFFER BECAUSE OF IT. BUT THE REALITY IS NO COUNTRY IS RACIST EVERY COUNTRY HAS SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE EVERY COUNTRY HAS PEOPLE WHO ARE HARD TO GET ALONG WITH EVERY PERSON HAS A RIGHT NOT TO LIKE YOU FOR HIS OWN REASONS.

    YOU COULD BE A VICTIM OF ACTIONS OF SOMEONE FROM YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT EVERYONE FROM YOUR OWN COUNTRY WILL BE GOOD TO YOU. THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WHOM YOU CALL ANOTHER RACE AND THEY MIGHT STAND BY YOU AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. IT IS EASY TO PUT IN WORDS AND TELL SOMEONE BUT IT IS THE REALITY.

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  • Charles D''Mello, Pangala

    Wed, Jun 24 2009

    Professor David, you lecture in India about the good qualities of Indians is necessary. It is important to stop attacking Indian students in Australia.

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  • Ryan Pinto, Mumbai/ Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 24 2009

    We Indians are overtly sensitive and politically correct. To begin with we allege of racism against Indians in oz, what action is taken anyone commiting horrendous crimes in India:

    1. Rape- Absolute no action in 70% of the cases taken to court (Lack of evidence) and many more go unregistered in Police stations. 2. Goondaism& Vandalism- Guys like Mr. Raj Thacrey and his mob create unrest in cities and take people to ransom,his people have been caught pelting stones and destroying public property on camera, no action he is released with a mild warning.Gujarat was bleeding in 2002 post Godhra, no action from either central or state govt. 4. Middle East- Many peole living in the gulf coutries are persucuted by their sponsors. No action is taken and nothing highlighted in the media as we know these counties lack democracy and care two hoods to our media. so we are highly opportunists 5. Lastly lets look at ourselves before accusing the world- we discriminate based on brahmin, harijan, SC, ST and OBC.

    Aren''t we racist we call a north east indian guy a "CHINKI" a tamilian "MADRASI" a keralite "MALLU" a bihari or UP man "BHAIYA". There are around 80,000 Indian students studying in Australia, 20 are attacked, as true indians we never speak about the remaining 79,985 doing well. Indians are hardworking and sincere abroad. if we were really as claimed we are in india we would have been the no. 1 country in the world today. So stop fooling ourselves and live life practically.

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  • Simon, Mangalore Dhahran

    Wed, Jun 24 2009

    Maureen, Mangalore, Sydney, well done to explain some of the facts from down under with your own personnel experience. The media in India is primarly responsbile for blowing out of propotion the incidents that took place affecting some Indians. There may be truth in few of the incidents and may have impacted health and safety issues. No one has been assked to be Austrila and it is the choice of these people to study or live abroad.

    I left Mangalore in 1980 and lived/ travelled to 53 countries. In general, Indians continue their our home grown habits abroad. In my opinion majority of them are successful and a small percentage easily get into trouble, may be at times due to no fault of their own reasoning, which can happen any where in the world. People should travel, learn local culture, and blend in terms of local situations and expectations. It does help everyone living in those communities and less media hype. It takes years to learn and develop to be proseprous in an adopted land.

    Today''s generation expects everything to be instant and at others expense. If you have not travelled outside India, please discuss these situations with those who you know and learn more about reality in their places of travel and understand local cultures.

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  • Ophelia D''souza, Miyar/ Melbourne/Australia

    Wed, Jun 24 2009

    Thilak, for your kind information I have not referred the mangalore incident I spoke in general.but now I let me ask you whether the stones were thrown without any provocation? sometimes guilty conscience pricks the mind.

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  • Maureen, M''lore, Sydney

    Wed, Jun 24 2009

    Tilak, 100 % true, some people can not digest their food without thinking of those incidents. You, me and everybody were hurt with those incidents. But why dig into old stories? Forget the past, either ignore those people or be very good to them. But I think mangies will never change and it is sad that we can not change. Maureen

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  • Maureen, M''lore, Sydney

    Wed, Jun 24 2009

    Justin, You have a ego problem.Our Indian students in Australia speak English or do not speak English, it is not our problem.what about international students coming form rest of the world? Do all of them know to speak English? Do not make fun of people loosing jobs.

    What if your family working in those uni''s and loosing jobs? You may not like if somebody says that to your family. So respect everybody. Austraila is open for everybody. Just like how you and me migrated to Australia. Wether we are skilled people or not, at the end of the day, I justify the professor''s statement. We Indians are hard working, mild and friendly natured and also non-offensive. I have never come across any racist remarks.

    I work for the government/department and I see a lot of Indians working in government offices in Australia. So think before you comment. Have a good day, Maureen

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  • Nelson Dsouza, Karkala\Riyadh

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    Thank you professor for that positive remarks. I am sure most Austrlians have realised that. What makes them not to come out in Open in support of Indians may be "EGO" or may be who knows "Racism". But Open statements like this by Top Australian citizens and Diplomats may change the Australian outlook towards Indians. Let us hope things would getting better in coming days with Active involvement by our External Ministry.Common Inida..you need to Lead the world in next decade..

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  • Flavian Hardcastle, Adelaide, South Australia

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    This so called "spate of attacks" is amounts to 15 assaults over the space of 6 weeks. In Australia, there are about 12000 assaults per month (which is slightly less per capita than the UK, US, and NZ by the way). One or two of these assaults on Indians might have been inspired by race. But half of them were committed by ethnic people anyway (the attack on Sourabh Sharma, Sunny Bajaj, the Harris Park attacks in Sydney). This is basically nothing more than a minor amount of routine crime. But it has been beaten up by the Indian media. That''s all there is to it.

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  • A.D''Cunha Shenoy, mangaluru

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    We Indians are hard working whether in Australia or India. The professors notion that Indian Students are hard working may be true but deep down under that this attribute comes with our value system. The western multicultural policies are drawn to entice students from ethnic oriented countries whose value system is part part partial of their life religoiusly or culturally.

    The western countries particularly Australia, Canada and so on make huge amount of money on tution fees. Its time that we invest this money in our own country by making our governments accountable for Indians. The foreign education is better is questionable. Tee racism prevails in these countries.

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  • Thilak Shetty, Dubai, Mangalore

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    Reference to Mr. Ophlia D''souza..I think some people can''t digest their food without refering Mangalore incidents once in a day. Just pelt some stones on them, you will get same treatment from Aussy Police also.

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  • Ophelia D''souza, Miyar/ Melbourne/Australia

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    I agree with Jaimini.I can say that being Indians our voice heard here. since Indian students demanded justice aussie police are catching criminals so that even Aussies are happy that Indians voice their frustration.Indians are not safe in their own country.Mangalore is an example.

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  • RP, KSA

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    Whatever the professor says: Deep down in their hearts, the whites, they are all racist whether in the UK, USA, Europe etc. They are not smart but we Asians are stupid..!!

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  • Eulalia Dsouza, Bijai / Mangalore

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    Prof. Lovell, thank you for your assurances about Indians n our students in Australia being Hard working etc etc..!! Does that mean, local students / local people feel insecure with Indians excelling in studies, working part time or full time or in academic activities? It only goes to show that local students have Govt security from your local government, parents to support their children there, where as our students who have gone from here, study hard n earnestly.

    They work hard during college break, so that they can support themselves. It doesnt mean that we are eating into their pound of flesh, it is just that Indian students are hard working. Let us also not forget that parents of these students pay a huge amount of fees, housing fees and other additional expenses for their children. I am sure this is a huge revenue to Australian Govt, so why shud our students be ill treated, the way it is happening.!!! Shockingly it is being continued and not being stopped.. In which case, how do parents feel comfortable n safe to send their children n wards to Australia for higher studies?

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  • Ron, Mississauga, Canada

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    To the Aussies Down Under, "Don''t kill the goose that laid the golden egg"

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  • justin, mangalore/australia

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    Well said jaimini P.B. to some extent it is true. This university wants Indian students to come so that they get their big money on enrollments,If overseas students wont come then these universities has to close down and the professors loose their job. Mr. David has to say nice things about indians so that they keep coming even though 75 percent of them cannot speak English and God knows what they study. Only reason of being coming in student visa is to get PR as they do not qualify in skilled category. Students should behave as well when overseas.

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  • reema, dubai

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    Jaimini....ur comment is so true....i like dat.:)

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Tue, Jun 23 2009

    INDIANS are Hardworking, Non-offensive,Mild natured only OVERSEAS not in INDIA !!!

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