Poland’s `Auschwitz’ reminds Archbishop of Kanara Catholics’ persecution

Bangalore
Dec 1, 2009

The soft-spoken and mild-mannered Archbishop of Bangalore, Rev Dr Bernard Moras, became an unlikely hero and caught the imagination of Catholics of not just India’s knowledge capital but of the entire Karnataka state and the country but even abroad when he stood up agai nst the states’s BJP chief minister B S Yeddyurappa, home minister Dr V S Archarya and other ministers  in  2008 following a series of attacks against churches in the state when he thundered: ``I am prepared to lay down my life for the Church.’’

"How would you have felt if the sanctum sanctorum (garbha gudi) of temples was desecrated and the statues of your gods and goddesses brazenly dismembered?,’’ he had asked when Yeddyurappa, Acharya and several other ministers had called on him after the series of attacks against churches in Mangalore, Udupi, Chikmagalur, Bangalore and other districts in September last year.
The righteous indignation exhibited by the Archbishop took everybody by surprise, when the chief minister and the other BJP leaders, who had sought to justify the attacks carried out by Bajrang Dal and other Sangh Parivar activists by raising the bogey of conversions,  offered a boquet of flowers.

"The 68-year-old Archbishop, who personifies hardwork and devotes more than 12 hours to his pastoral and social service obligations on a daily basis, visited the Vatican to participate in the three-day 24th International Conference on the unusual theme of ``Ephphatha!’’ (The Deaf Person in the Life of the Church) from November 19 to 21 by virtue of his position as the Chairman of the Health Commission of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India (CBCI), New Delhi.

 


the house, where St. Maksymilian was killed


the special primary school for the blind - Rabka



Divine Mercy Shrine - Kraków-Łagiewniki


Niepokalanów - the Basilica II



The meeting of Sisters Superior FSC - Retreat House in Laski


Niepokalanów - the chapel of St. Maksymilian


Jasna Góra - holy mass at the Chapel of Black Madonna 23rd Nov 2009

 

"Visiting Poland, which is almost a completely Catholic country, and the birth place of our beloved Holy Father John Paul II was one of my cherished dream,’’ remarked the Archbishop, who had visited Rome for a record eleven times besides travelling to several other countries.  ``I managed to squeeze in sufficient time to make this happen and am very glad,’’ he said.

Sharing details of the insights that he gained in his 15-day trip abroad to Vatican and Poland, the Archbishop said the Catholics who could afford to should try to visit Poland at least once in their lifetime just as all the faithful make it a point to visit the Holy Land and the places that have played an important part in the public life of Jesus Christ and other historic Biblical landmarks.

"Poland is perhaps the only country in central Europe that is largely Catholic. It has a history or almost a shameful record of persecution and atrocities against Jews and other ethnic non-Germans under Nazi rulers. Imagining the kind of torture and horrors of holocaust itself was a terrible experience,’’ the Archbishop said pointing out that the Catholic forefathers in the Kanara region had suffered an almost similar religious persecution during the Tipu Sultan rule some 225 years ago.

"The Catholics of Kanara region may not have been tortured and exterminated like the Jews in the Nazi concentration camps known as Auschwitz of early 1930s. The holocaust was a nightmare of the last century. But the trauma, travails and sufferings of Mangalorean Catholics in what is regarded as the entire Kanara or coastal region is no less tolerable,’’ the Archbishop said pointing out that he recalled these details during his visit to the Konzentrationslager (KL) Auschwitz at Birkenau, which saw more than a million Jews as well as tens of thousands of Poles, Romanies and Sinti, Soviet prisorners of war and other innocent people brutally murdered.

"The captivity of thousands of Kanara Catholics and their inhuman deportation to Seringapatanam, the present Srirangapatnam, near Mysore like cattle is also a painful experience,’’ the Archbishop said, adding: ``The only thing that I could do was to pray that such senseless, brutal and tragic events never recur.’’

"I met a 90 plus and practically invalid nun, who had almost completely lost her eyesignt and confined to a wheelchair , who had saved a large number of Jewish kids from certain death from the Nazi tormentors. I was simply amazed at her fortitude and touched by the regular visits from a large number of relatives of the survivors from the Holy Land and other parts of the world to pay her homage, ‘’ the Archbishop recalled.

"I was told that several German visitors, especially the younger generation were so remorseful of what the atrocities committed by their forefathers,’’ he said pointing out that, ``These young Germans were spending time and energies in social work and even doing menial works.’’
Another important and most significant aspect of the visit to Poland was to see the widespread popularity of the devotion to Mother Mary in different parts of the country. The world famous pilgrim centre, Jasna Gora (Clarus Mons or Luminous Hill), the sanctuary of the Mother of God, which is also known as the Black Madonna, was another highpoint of the Archbishop’s Poland tour.

"I had the rare privilege of offering mass at the Shrine,’’ the Archbishop said p ointing out that it was one of the biggest Marian shrines. It may be recalled that the then Archbishop of Delhi Allan de Lastic had died at the Jasna Gora shrine during a visit in 2000.
The Archbishop also visited the sanctuary of Divine Mercy at Krakow in Lagiewniki, which was termed by Holy Father John Paul II as the ``capital of the cult of Divine Mercy.’’ It was at this sanctuary that Sister Faustina, who had been canonized recently, lived in the Congregation of the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy. The Apostolic Movement of the Divine Mercy dating back to 1935 began here with Sister Faustina believed to have heard the words of Jesus: ``You will prepare the world for my second coming; with your companions, you will entreat my mercy for yourselves and the world.’’

"During my visit to the Papal town of Wadowice, where Pope John Paul II, was born as Karol Wojtyla, I was simply overwhelmed at the humble beginning of our late Holy Father,’’ the Archbishop said pointing out that he also visited the Virgin Mary;s Offertory Basilica and the Church of St Peter the Apostle, both of which are nearby, and closely linked to the childhood and youth of the late Pope. The Shrine of the Kalwaria Zebrzydowska, one of the most popular and world famous pilgrim centre, near Wadowice, which is known for the Holy Week celebrations with the Glorious Mystery of the Lord and the Burial and Triumph of Our Lady Celebrations.  Christ’s Avenues and Our Lady’s Avenues services held by lay people led by a lay guide are a Kalwarian characteristic feature besides the practice of an Avenues service for the dead.

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Comment on this article

  • Joachim Fernandes, US

    Sat, Dec 05 2009

    Upper caste Hindus should acknowledge their past and their mistreatment of lower castes and ask lower caste Hindus for forgiveness. Only then can upper caste Hindus have the right to ask Christians for forgiveness for Portuguese and Catholic crimes in Goa.

  • Greg D'Silva, UDUPI/MUMBAI

    Sat, Dec 05 2009

    We should have a some sort of monument erected in Seringapatnam and Mangalore city so that this atrocoties committed on our ancestors and forefathers are not forgotten,as we all know there are instances of genocide denial happening in history. Yes Coming back to Nagesh Nayak please ignore him, all can guess how illiterate,uncivilized and complete lack of internet etiquette in terms usage of capital letters throughout the sentences and then using small letters for name and place. His teacher and parents has to teach him a lot.

  • Judith L, Mumbai

    Sat, Dec 05 2009

    Nagesh Nayak, You are still not able to show atleast one Hindu who has been converted forcibly. still you keep on harping the same thing again and again. By now, everybody has seen your evil and politically driven mind. who want to create hatred among people and enjoy descreting the holy sacrament and churches, does your religion preach this. You very well know that by faith christians will not retaliate and are taking opportunity of the situation. Just by saying Jai Ho to bjp and its leaders you do not become great. Start doing good charity work and helping the poor and needy and then come and post your achievements. With peace in your heart, you will be a much happier person. I am sorry, you have not yet started it.

  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Fri, Dec 04 2009

    HI JULIANA, YOU AGREE THAT LOW CASTE ARE CONVERTING INTO CHRISTIAN. IT IS TRUE & BY FORCE. YOU ARE ENCASHING THEIR POVERTY & CHANGE THEIR RELIGION.YOU ARE BLAMING HINDU GODS & HINDU CULTURE. YOU ARE SO DESPARATE THAT YOU ENTERED TIRUMALA TEMPLE & STARTED PROPOGANDA FOR CHRISTAINITY. YOU PEOPLE STANDING IN QUEUE WITH COPY OF BIBLE & DISTRUBUTING TO OUR HINDU BRETHERN IN TIRUMALA. YSR EVEN GRANTED LAND TO BUILD A CHURCH IN TIRUMALA. DUE TO GREAT EFFORT OF SHRI SHRI PEJAVAR SWAMIJI EVERYTHING IS STOPPED & HINDUS ARE HAPPILY GOING FOR LORD BALAJI'S DARSHAN. WILL YOU ALLOW TO DISTRIBUTE BHAGWADGITA IN VATICAN OR IN VELANKANI. JUST THINK & COMMENT. WE ARE NOT AGAINST ANY INDIVIDUAL, RELIIGION & CULTURE. WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF ATHITI DEVOBHAVA & VASUDAIVA KUTUMBAKKAM. BUT NOT AT THE COST OF OUR RELIGION & CULTURAL EXISTANCE. JAI HO.

  • Paul Kamath, Toronto

    Fri, Dec 04 2009

    Some of the readers got it right (Preethi KS). Hindus were persecuted and slaughtered, first in the name Islam and then later under the Portugese, in the name of Catholicism (note I said Catholicism as the Portuguese brought their brand of religion to India). This is not meant to diminish the Christian holocaust in Mysore or anybody's else's suffering. Christians should acknowledge our past and ask for forgiveness for what was done to the Hindus in the name of their religion. I personally think we have not seen the end of Holocausts (as witnessed by Rawanda and Yugoslavia). There is enormous hatred in India towards each other based on religion and caste and given the pressures of population and lack of enforcement of law and order/corruption, ethnic cleansing will occur again on a similar or larger scale. How else can you explain Mohammedans slaughtering each other in the name of Islam (also note I said Mohammedans as those who commit these atrocities are not muslims but follow certain parts of Mohammeds teachings). Power in India is held in the hands of Hindus and they should be taking the lead in showing compassion as they have done over the centuries. Else we will end up like Pakistan. Those who forget history are bound to repeat it.

  • Vaman Shenoy, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 04 2009

    I do not stand any kind of desecration of dieties or religious symbols.But there are enough platforms to vent your frustrations,emotions and feelings within India. One doesn't have to go all the way to Europe to compare mountain and the mole hill ie Nazi haloucast and recent Mangalore events. May I knwo how many Christain priests particpated in freedom struggle? GSB is one communaity that was virtually driven away from their home land in Goa.Their dieties,temples were desecrated. The church was successful in obliterating many civilization except Hindu and Chinese. Tolenrence is inbuilt virtue of Indians. Tippu is no doubt a invader. But conveniently remembered for convenience ,no matter how old his being was.But when it comes to Goa events"let us forget History and look forward.

  • dasmond, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    God Bless our beloved Archbishop.All these communal forces can best serve our state by fighting corruption and helping Justice Hegde and his able warriors to end this scourge instead of attacking churches and indulging in moral policing for petty political gains

  • juliana, udupi

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    Dear Nagesh Nayak Bangalore it looks like you never ever found any good Christian. It is not your fault. Christians in India are normally from low castes and usually shy away from mixing with the high castes. Though born low, they get some courage after conversion to face the world due to the moral lessons they receive from their gurus or rather the religion. That doesn't mean that I support ill doers. There is law of the nation to bring them back to main stream. I suggest you better mingle with people of positive attitude. Give a cup of water to thirsty and see the result. You are rewarded instantly.

  • Joachim Fernandes, US

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    The archbishop is right to alert Indians to the dangers of majoritarian tyranny in a democracy.

  • Jan Niechwiadowicz, Wales

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    Dear Gabriel Vaz, United Nation Official name Auschwitz-Birkenau German Nazi Concentration and Extermination Camp (1940-1945) I am confused by your reply. You seem to be claiming that space is an issue but Poland’s `Auschwitz’ is in fact longer than Auschwitz in Poland. The more correct term would state Auschwitz was German which would only be 1 character longer. As Robert Kupiecki, Poland's ambassador to the United States said about such incorrect terms they “imply that the camps were a responsibility of the Poles. Poland was never an ally of Nazi Germany and never had any collaborative regime. Between 1939 and 1945 Nazi Germany occupied Poland.” David Peleg, The Ambassador of Israel to Warsaw, Poland, echoed those words saying "We, being Jews and Israelis, with reject resolutely terminology such as "Polish concentration camps". These prejudicial and erroneous phrases represent primarily testimony about ignorance and lack of understanding of fundamental historical truth. Every thinking man knows that it was the Nazis who ed Poland for central site for dreadful genocide of extermination of European Jews. On the Polish soil the Germans built terrifying camps where they systematically murdered 4.5 million Jews (including 3 million Polish Jews) and other nationalities including thousands of Poles." If you really meant no offence then change the title to say Auschwitz was German not Polish.

    Regards Jan Niechwiadowicz, Moderator, Polish Media Issues

  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    HI DONFRANK, PLEASE LET US KNOW THE MEANING OF HEROISM. HEROES ARE THOSE WHO FOUGHT AGAINST TERRORIST & LOST THEIR LIFE FOR THE SAKE OF OUR SECURITY. NOT GIVING RESPECT TO THE HEAD OF THE STATE & SPEAKING AGAINST IS NOT AT ALL HEROISM. DO NOT JUMP & COMMENT.

  • donfrank, Mangalore, UAE

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    Hats off to our dear Archbishop. He is not only a great Hero for the Christians of Karnataka state, but also for all the peace loving people of this world. Mr. Gabriel Vaz, please continue writing articles which contain full of facts. Do not worry about some negative comments. God is always with you and we extend our full support to you for your excellent articles. JAI HO.

  • Gabriel Vaz, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    Mr Mark Krolposki, Chicago, & Mr Jim Przedzienkowski,USA, I take your point that the headline could have been worded better. Perhaps, it should have said Auschwitz in Poland rather than Poland's...But you must understand that the headlines cannot be too long. Still, I agree that it could have been written differently. In any case, the write-up is based on Archbishop's impressions after his visit to Poland and the ``terrible'' feelings that he described after visiting Auschwitz when he imagined the horrors and sufferings of the victims of Nazis. Catholics & Christians of Kanara region underwent similar but not comparable experiences for 15 long years when nearly 80000 people including women,kids, aged were herded to Seringapatna some 300 kms away barefoot like cattle. The Archbishop merely referred to that shameful episode in the history of Kanara region. Neither Archbishop nor I passed any remarks belittling the sufferings of the victims of holocaust. So, no offence was meant or intended to anybody either by Archbishop or myself!

  • Oliver Mascarenhas, Mangalore / Dubai

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    A suggestion to everyone here of all communities, the author and media. "Not to waste our energies in opening up wounds". Jesus who was killed on the cross said "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they do". Lets learn this message that we all, regardless of caste or communities , all get mis-led by the EVIL one to commit blunders that we later regret. The Devil is a liar and many of us get deceived in his lies. Blessed are those who are merciful, they will receive mercy. The Devil rejoices when he reads the comments here, because he feels he has won the battle to create disharmony among a peace loving place of Karnataka. Lets not fall in his trap. Lets walk in FAITH following the words of DIVINE WISDOM and not EVIL LIES. There is a lot of sufferings that need urgent care. Work on these to experience the LOVE and GRACE of the LORD - For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'-Matthew 25:35-36 I have witnessed this love from a Hindu friend, a Muslim brother , a Sikh neighbour, a german colleague, a Chinese budhist, a Jain, a smiling JEW, a talkative mallu, a innovative GUJJU. All have the seed of the same LOVE of GOD that we all came from. We just need to recognise that and encourage this quality and PRAISE the LORD always! Pray for all GOD's children

  • Ajay Dsilva, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    We must remember that we are living in a secular country. We must not hurt the feelings of others. We must try to bring about unity and not hatred

  • Mark Krolpolski, Chicago

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    I believe the archibishop had good intentions in describing his visit to Poland, but his choice of words would probably offend his hosts. He said, "It has a history or almost a shameful record of persecution and atrocities against Jews and other ethnic non-Germans under Nazi rulers." This gives the impression that it was the Poles themselves who have a "shameful record" when, on careful reading, he is actually referring to the period of time when Poland was occupied by the Nazis. Poland had been a safe haven for European Jews from the 1400s on, when the Polish king invited them and granted them almost self-government. And during World War II, only Poland created a dedicated organization to rescue Jews and tried to announce to the world what was happening. But the warnings fell on deaf ears. As the son of an inmate of Auschwitz, I take offense at the use of the words "Poland's Auschwitz" in the article. This camp, built by the Germans after they invaded Poland to house Polish intelligencia and provide slave labor for an IG Farben factory, is not Polish. And the use of the term "Polish" or "Poland's" has been decried by the United Nations and Israel's Yad Vashem. I would suggest you change it. I wish our Catholic brothers and sisters God's blessings and hope Jesus provides them his Grace to endure their persecutions.

  • Terence, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    Good job Mr. Gabriel Vas. A well written article. Clear and to the point. I don't understand why there is so much controversy over Auschwitz beng compared to persecution of Kanara Catholics. No doubt, Auschwitz is something beyond ones comprhension. But doesn't mean it cannot be compared to anything else. Only by comparing do we relize the true intensity of these events and how they changed the course of the world.We need to learn from these past events. We look back into the past so as not to commit the same mistakes that were commited by our forefathers. But I agree  that more time should be devoted to solving the problems at present. But looking at the past is a good way to do it.

  • Jim Przedzienkowski, USA

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    Your lead in "Polands Auschwitz" is incorrect and should be changed to Germany's Auschwitz. The Germans Nazis established the concentration camp on Polish occupied soil. Poland does have an Oswiecim town.

  • BENJAMIN, MANGALORE-OMAN

    Thu, Dec 03 2009

    There are lot of other issues like Education,Health and Sanitation.I would appreciate if our politicians and their associates spend more time on these basic needs instead of talking about relegion.

  • Gabriel Vaz, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    Though I avoid reacting to comments from readers, I wish to clarify some points after reading the comments posted by some readers. First, I remarked that the Archbishop ``became an unlikely hero'' when I confronted the CM & HM by asking how they would have felt if the holiest garbha gudi of their own temples were attacked, vandalised and desecrated as had happened in Mangalore, Bangalore other places. The CM may be head of state but he is still a politician and leader of the ruling party and it is his duty to ensure protection to all, particularly minorities. By openly confronting the CM, the Archbishop (in my eyes) became a hero to most Catholics and even secular-minded Hindus and non-Christians. After visiting Auschwitz and imagining the persecution of Nazi victims, the Archbishop compared it with the sufferings of Christians in Kanara some 225 years ago under Tipu Sultan rule though the two cannot be really compared. But is there any rule or law against comparing the sufferings of Christians of Kanara under Tipu with the persecution of Jews and other non-Germans by Nazis? How can the Archbishop be held responsible for what Portugese did in Goa? Did he ever defend or justify it? In any case, merely because something bad happened does not mean minorities should be persecuted by Bajrang Dal, Sri Ram Sene, VHP and other religious fundamentalists. Otherwise, what is the use of having CM, HM, Police and Government?

  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    HI JULIANA, UDUPI, LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR IS NOT HAPPENNING IN INDIA BUT CONVERT THY NEIGHBOUR IS HAPPENNING. THAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS IN INDIA. JAI HO .

  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    Hi Naina, Mangalore/USA, THERE ARE LACS OF ARCHIEVES ABOUT ATROCITIES ON HINDUS. YOU GO THRU THAT & THEN COMMENT. IN GOA HINDUS WERE FORCED TO EAT COW FLESH & ATROCITIES ON WOMEN WERE @ THE PEAK DURING POTUGESE & BRITISH RULES. JAI HO.

  • Hariprasad Hegde, Mangalore/Udupi

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Preethi KS, Udupi... so far how many of our Hindu brothers or sisters are been killed which is so called (Bajrang Dal, VHP, or any Sangha peoples)do not include Jains, Buddist coz this peoples are not called Hindus, comparing to Jews killed by any religion? Nagesh Nayak i am confused what you are talking???

  • Rukmini Pai, Urwa/Toronto

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    We know that the Archbishop is a revered head of the Roman Catholics here but why is he talking about persecution during the time of Tippu and Nazis now. The past is history. Let him talk about what he is doing to sort out communal differences in Mangalore. The bishop of Mangalore seems to have taken the right step in bringing about peace and harmony among the localites in Mangalore.

  • C.G.Shenoy, Mangalore

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    Thanks Gabriel for your wonderful, informative and inspiring article. It is true that the Pen is mightier than the sword!!

  • juliana, udupi

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Thanks to God for not showing Himself. If idols could be God, everybody would have fought and died by now. God is gracious since He don't show Himself to us silly creatures. Christianity doesn't spell hatred. It says love thy neighbour like yourself. Your neighbour lives in faith with you so have have to be grateful to him.

  • Krystyna, USA

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    Again, there was not and it is not Poland's 'Auschwitz', IT ALWAYS BE GERMAN 'AUSCHWITZ'

  • Jerry Moas, Calgary, Canada

    Wed, Dec 02 2009

    HATS OFF to Archbishop Moras.  Let us have a positive look. A person is not evil by nature. But becomes evil because he thinks evil, sees evil and speaks evil and he does evil. Hence, he becomes. Now, to become good thinker got to change attitude , needs willingness.

  • Preethi KS, Udupi

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Looks like the Archbishop has conveniently forgotten similar horrors which have been inflicted upon Hindus over the centuries in India in the name of Islam and Christianity....has he forgotten the persecution of Hindus in Goa by the Prtuguese in the name of Christ??? Or the razing down of thousands of Hindu temples and desecration of idols by Aurangzeb in the name of Islam? He is demeaning the memories of all those who died in the Holocaust by comparing it to the attacks on churches in the state which pales in comparison to what the Nazis, Portuguese Christians, and Muslim invaders have inflicted!!!!! Pls do not make a mockery of important, sad, historical events!!!!

  • Anita Coutinho, Blr/Mlr/Canada

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Poland’s `Auschwitz’ reminds Archbishop of Kanara Catholics’ persecution

  • Albina Vaz, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    We are proud of you, Your Grace. Your heart always beats for the lay faithful. May the Almighty grant you good health to carry on your mission

  • vG, Bangalore

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    What the Archbishop said is correct. The inhuman holocaust and extermination perpetrated by the Nazis is most reprehensible and should never recur. But what happened to our forefathers in the Kanara region during the Tipu Sultan rule, when 60 to 80 thousand Catholics were mercilessly herded to Srirangapatna more thaan 200 years ago is most unfortunate. However, can we ever forget the fact that none of the Priests were among those subjected to inhuman treatment or wonder why the Priests who were expected to look after the faithful abandoned them? I only wish our forefathers had somebody like the Archbishop to lead them and provide whatever support they needed and even suffer the same fate. If Christ could offer himself to be crucified more than 2000 years ago, surely His chosen successors could have shown the same courage! Or is it too much to expect of our modern Priests or those who lived barely two centuries ago? This is something all of us must ponder.

  • Olivia Moras, Puttur/Kuppepadau/Toronto

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Very nice Article. Great job Daiji. Thank you for Archbishop Moras for giving us such detailed information on the birth place of our beloved Holy Father John Paul II. Father Moras May the almighty God bless you abundantly with good health, happiness and success in years to come give you the strength to carry on the great work you are doing. May your journey be safe.

  • Naina, Mangalore/USA

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Hello Nagesh, You are indeed in denial, haven't you seen the pictures beating Nuns and law abiding citizens in Mangalore. If you did not see them pl go the Archives of Daiji world or any other news outlet and see for yourself and read once again to enlighten your mind.

  • Olivia Moras, Puttur/Kuppepadau/Toronto

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Thank you Ronald and Joseph Gonsalves for your wonderful comments. Nagesh Nayak, Bangalore remember when u write something it just reflects your personality. And Ronald has rated you well. Do me a favour, ask your so called useless heroes Yediyurappas & Acharyas to learn how to claim respect. Well that's an art, I agree & It requires a lot of great personality to master it. Archbishop Moras knows what he's doing and we are very very proud of him. We pray for him every day. Please do yourself a favour by thinking twice before you write because as I said you are just exhibiting your own low level personality. Well, unless & otherwise you voluntarily want to do so..

  • Harish, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    What Hitler did, started off with a simple election win, just like kalyan Singh during 1991(Ayodhya), N Modi in 2001 and yeddy in 2008. Then what Hitler did was again a simple thing,accuse the minority..just like Togadia, Modi, Advani and Yeddy... So why is this not comparable to Auschwitz? The author of the article clearly states that, at Aushwitz it happened at a larger scale. But in Mlore, this is just the beginning. Can anyone guarantee that this won't happen again? or won't turn into something bigger.I being a peace loving Hindu, cannot guarantee because of the unethical idealogies of certain party leaders. How will the other communities feel safe then. Politicians should fight elections on economical issues, not religious. What a shame? What a shame? Nagesh nayak is right in saying that heads of the state should be respected. I add, only if they deserve it. What Yeddy did was shed crocodile tears. Home Minister gave a statement after a week. COmments by Joseph Gonsalvez clearly point this out. People in Germany are so ashamed of what Hitler did, they don't even talk about him anymore. Maybe Nagesh Nayaks and D. Kiran Acharya s kids will have to face the same situation if the present situatuin gets out of hand. Remember, I am proud of all the peace loving Mangaloreans..Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhists, Jains..whoever. Good luck India. Good job Daiji.

  • Jathin Kamath, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Gabriel - with all due respect, I think you've gone overboard. Seriously, some miscreants throwing stone on church is compared to Holocaust where millions died? Also let us not forget how during Holocaust Pope was silent witness to massacre of Jews (some say Pope and Vatican even supported Hitler by being silent) Closer home how can one forget brutal attack on Hinduism by Portuguese in Goa due to which most of "Daijis" exist today. In recent church attacks not a single person died and frankly state govt DID bring situation under control quickly. Comparing this to Holocaust is laughable.

  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur/Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Dear Mr. Nagesh Nayak Iquote your words “SHRI YEDIYURAPPA, V.S. ACHARYA & BJP GOVT. WHICH TOOK NECESSARY ACTION IMMEDIATELY” Unquote. Is it really? Immediately means at the same time or on the same day. There was lawlessness for a week in Mangalore. Secondly, Church attacks were orchestrated by Mr. Yeddyurappa and its chelas and you say yeddyurppa stopped immediately and still helter skelter church attacks are going on with the support of Mr. Yeddyurappa and Mr. Acharya plus your support. Where you are Mr. Nagesh Nayak? You have to expain to your own comments.

  • Ronald D, Udupi

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Nagesh Maam, by using your little mind, which is not exposed to rational thinking, you are a hero and entertainer of your own creations. Yeddy & Acharya suit you well as hero's and leaders.

  • Fredrick Correa, Nairobi, Kenya

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Frankly speaking, I did not understand from the article, as to how the Archbishop became an unlikely hero. Anyway, we should not take our problems outside. Yes, we have suffered humiliation, misunderstanding and voilence but we do not need outsiders' sympathy. We are capable of solving our own problems. Has not the attacks brought something good? Catholics have now started praying harder than before. The people have now leart the difference between Catholics and other sects especially the New Life Movement. God Bless Mangalore, God Bless India!

  • JOY CASTELINO, MOODUBELLE/DUBAI

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Dr Kiran Acharya,you are right, comparing recent events at Mangalore/Udupi are a bit exaggerated. Because it is carried out by Hindu Fundamentalist, whatever they had done in the name of religion is right and nobody has the right to question it!!!. However what happened during Tipu Sultans regime can be compared with Nazis regime, because Tipu Sultan is a Muslim!!!!.

  • Dr Kiran Acharya, Manipal

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    Atrocities at Auschwitz, as well as rest of the world by Nazis has been well documented at Yad Vesham- holocast museum at Jerusalem, Israel. However comparing it with recent events at Mangalore/Udupi are a bit exaggerated! However the author is right in describing the events in Srirangapatna...during Tipu Sultans regime.

  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Tue, Dec 01 2009

    HATS OFF TO SHRI YEDIYURAPPA , V.S. ACHARYA & BJP GOVT. WHICH TOOK NECESSARY ACTION IMMEDIATELY . THEY ARE THE REAL HEROES. DID MMS OR SONIA VISITED TAJ AFTER ATTACK? SPEAKING AGAINST THE HAED OF THE STATE IS NOT A HEROISM. WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE HEAD OF THE STATE. GIVE RESPECT & TAKE RESPECT IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR. JAI HO .


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