Religious conversions: State govt to survey Christian missionaries


Bengaluru, Oct 14 (IANS): The Backward Classes and Minorities Welfare Department in Karnataka has ordered the officers to conduct a survey of both official and non-official Christian missionaries functioning in the state, according to sources.

The order is being issued in the backdrop of discussion of rampant religious conversions in the state. The decision was taken in the meeting held at Vikasa Soudha on Wednesday by the Backward Classes and Minorities Welfare Committee.

Legislators Goolihatti Shekar, Puttaranga Setty, B.M. Farooq, Virupakshappa Bellary, Ashok Naik and others took part in the meeting and discussed the matter. The committee also discussed the facilities availed by the missionaries from the government. The committee also discussed the registration of Christian missionaries.

The committee members have suggested withdrawing government facilities to those who get converted. BJP MLA Goolihatti Shekar stated that according to preliminary information available, 40 per cent of the Churches functioning in the state are unofficial. "Statistics are being gathered in this regard. The committee discussed unofficial missionaries operating in the state," he added.

Chief Minister Basavaraj Bommai has reiterated that the government will bring anti-conversion law to impose a ban on forceful conversion activities in the state. "The government is studying laws implemented in this regard by the various state governments in the country. The law in this regard will be enacted soon in Karnataka," he said.

BJP MLA Goolihatti Shekar had raised the issue of religious conversions on the floor of the Assembly during the Monsoon Session. He claimed that his mother was converted without his knowledge, and the Christian missionaries foisted false atrocity and rape cases on those who questioned their conversion activities. He has also initiated 'Ghar wapsi', an initiative to facilitate conversions of Christians to Hinduism.

 

 

 

 

  

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  • Sunil Coutinho, Mangalore /Koramangala, Bangalore

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    Religion is a choice not to be imposed upon.It would be good if our government would dedicate its time in getting our people educated. Abolish the caste system and castewise reservations for academics and govt jobs. Education should be free for all below the poverty line. Admissions for higher education and recruitment for jobs should be only based on merit.

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  • K K Badruddin, Karambar, Bajpe

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    According to our constitution all citizens are free to follow whatever religion they want. Religion is a sensitive relationship between man and his Creator and nobody has any right to question his belief. People change their religion if they are not satisfied with the dogmas of their parent religion and find other religion attractive. Caste system and superstition should be abolished in the religion to make it attractive. Then only, people will stick to it, otherwise, they will go in search of a religion which promotes equality. Hinduism, unfortunately, is full of contradictions and dogmas which, a common man cannot digest. Hence they leave it in search of a religion which has mass appeal. FORCED CONVERSION is wrong and should be opposed. However, if the one who got converted states that he converted on his own volition, he should not be coerced for Ghar Wapsi.

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  • Raj, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 16 2021

    Mass appeal .. Are you marketing religion. You talk about caste system that the colonialists started to harp on as a Hindu ideology when it is not ..... and rather than fix the problem or dogma you simply convert ?? . Please tell him how do you contribute to society and who said there was a creator ???... have you not read about evolution ????. Who is the forced covert here ??

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  • John, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    The more you try to stop the more people will embrace it

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  • Alfria, Manglore/Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Let all these so called Hindu people who call themselves as guardians of hindu religion visit all the home of aged and orphanage children home classify the inmates religion and get them out from there I bet you all the Hindu's will be surprised that the orphanage and home for the aged will be empty because these missionaries take care of the majority religion people that are the Hindu's.

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  • Joel, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    His government at the center couldn't provide a survey for all the immigrants death.

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  • Brian, Mlore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Weeds grow along with Paddy. Consume the good and discard the bad. Just because weeds are mixed with paddy doesn't mean to raze everything out. Its savage.

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  • Vicky D, Dubai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Conversion is the greatest threat to Hinduism & India. Looking at the seriousness of the issue many countries implemented death penalty for perpetrators. Hence people don't even dare to think of converting people in those places. But India is a fragile country, which can be easily manipulated in many ways like politics , religion etc The country which welcomed all, paying price for its generosity!

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  • Harish Bhat, Rayee

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    The more you shout at Christian for forceful conversion the more publicity they get. There are anti-conversion laws in many states still there are people getting attracted to Christianity. For example take the state of Odisha, the anti-conversion law was passed long ago and see the spread of christianity there including higher class people. The RSS and BJP should stop this drama and focus on welfare of the people.

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  • Manohar, Udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    I think it's the teaching and image of Jesus than force or favour.

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  • Daniel, Ujjodi/Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    I can't understand why they are so concerned about conversions. First you stop your people leaving Hindustan and going to Christian and Muslim (Gulf Countries) Ask a Hindu whether they are secure and happy more in foreign countries or in their Hindu Rastra. In Christian countries they are waiting like WATCH DOGS to get Citizenship. Once they got Citizenship they start cheating, corruption and what ever bad things they have. Very difficult to see any good thing they have. This is the truth.

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  • Rita, Germany

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    Daniel Ujjody ,I cant understand you certain people really.Why should one not allow anyone going to foreign countrys for examplw gulf countries for their living?Then one who doesnt allow and give a job and payment what one would earn in other land.Its ones own demokratic right to travel or move about ,where one wants.second conversation too is owns will.when his mother got converted he didnt know?As a adult ,mother need sons allowence?What he is saying here is absolutely not normal.She should ask his permission even to go toilet?Why Hindus are afraid now?They were not bothered previously if mother has any problem,health issue ,etc.These same Hindus want their children get educated in a catholic school ,collage ,best medical help in cathoilc hospital .They are then when someone want to convert immediately press meet.Afterall as per my knowledge in RK one doesnt convert anyone comes to ask immediately.It takes long time to convert only after being sure.Hindus immediately doubt about convert if any priest or otherone speaks to their volk.whatever matter be.Disgusting

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  • Gabriel Lewis, Brahmavar

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    We don't want Hindus to be converted as Christians. Please stay in your religion. We are already majority in the world. We don't want to increase our numbers. Thank You.

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  • Veer, Nagpur

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    If BJP is so concerned about conversion then convert whole of india to Hinduism forcefully and willfully but Don’t Vote For BJP. BJP is welcome to bring in any law to stop conversion.

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  • Manohar, Udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    All forced conversion must stop.........Hindus failing to profess our philosophy to people, not attractive?

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  • Harold Dcunha, Mangalore, India.

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This is nothing but jealously. Also shows the insecurity of BJP State government with Christianity. I am very happy that my forefathers accepted Christianity and followed Jesus Christ. I have read to a great extent Mahabarata, Ramayana, Vedas and Quran too. I am very glad for my faith. Truth will always prevail over lies and liars will bite the dust.

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  • Wilma, Udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Good move.Along with that survey deadiction centers,home of destitutes run by missionaries and appoint those moral policing guys to serve those who got admitted belongs to your community then you will be succeeded.

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  • Dinesh Narayan Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Please do not interfere with these missionaries. They are doing a amazing job, specially in our country. They really reached the poorest of the poor people in India which our own Hindu people neglected them, made them to suffer till today. Because of these Christian Missionaries our people got good education and a respectable life. Just for the purpose of Vote Bank politics don't fool us Sir.

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    many natives in western countries got radicalised and converted to Islam and joined terrorist outfits...

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  • DP, Balmatta

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    First settle the skeletons in your own cupboard before you go to your neighbor's .

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    I have heard some catholics whispering that they are brahmin christians... seen this in some matrimonial ads too... what is this brahmin christianity.... i have heard some catholics asking each other's 'caste'...

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    is my friend langoolacharya a so called brahmin christian...

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  • DP, Balmatta

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    Do a google search first. Don't bark without knowing the differences or what it is all about.

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  • Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    After almost plenty of hindus converted from Hinduism to Christianity by the Missionaries, presently the Christian population in India stands 80 percent Christians. Thanks to all Christian Missionaries. Praise God and His name be glorified.

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  • Paul, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    There are Lakhs of Hindu students study in Christian schools. And colleges. Have they got admission by force?How many Christian institutions forcefully admit hindu students.

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  • Rohan Pinto, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    It reminds Hitler made a survey on Jews regrding thier loyality all over Germany , And ultimatley his goverment dint get anything against goverment , but still they produced fake data report to prosecute them , Anything difference with this Hindutwa nazi goverment?

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  • Alwyn Dsouza, Canada

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Jesus is the savior of the world. Believe and saved. One day everyone who hates him will turn to Jesus because he loves the haters more than he love people worship him every day. He died on cross even with pain he said forgive and love one another. As per knowledge never seen any religion has thought me this. Jesus is alive and come again in full glory. His followers will be tortured, harrassed and troubled by many people but jesus will hold us tight and protect us from danger. His love is unconditional love. So do any survey or make whatever you like but none of you can change the heart of followers of christ. Simple example see how Christians were tortured in middle east but those Christians never surrender the devils but strongly followed christ even at thier last breath bcze strength come from christ is powerful and solid to stand firm on any ground.

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  • L Pais, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Many Catholic current youngsters are not going to churches . The trend is alarming. They prefer worshipping from home at their own will and convenience. Youngster would prefer playing cricket and football on Sunday mornings and pray in the evening. Its like the western countries. Hence you dont find much support to counter such allegations like before. Nobody wants to get involved in such Jamelas of the Govt. Sorry to say , we have to live with this!

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    China, japan highly advanced countries and societies... no religion... no official religion/closet religion, no enticement, no incitement, no conversion, no ghar vapasi...

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  • Allen, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Let these illiterate MLAs and Ministers make a survey and find out how many educated people from Christian Institutions have been converted during all these years of it's existence!

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    My faith, my religion in Christianity is embodied in me and I shall honor, respect and die for the cause come what may. "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.” “The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us.” ― C.S. Lewis

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    "The diversion of priorities infact affect the religion." Shankar, you can ask me any straight forward question except involving religion. I have not studied theology nor a Religious priest. Cynthia has forwarded you an answer and others may present their ideology soon. I am out !

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  • John, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    With elite and Communists so much evil and think that they are gods or No God... God is warning of mini Judgement, SOUL OUT OF BODY experience to all soon..... Why this Divine mini Judgement ? Before Final Judgement because of God's infinite Mercy for those who do not Him, as it is not their mistake, a mini judgement to all to choose between Good and evil. Soon A Warning, Two Asteroids collision in the sky, and a mini judgement (life review), people will have a real taste of their future destination heaven or hell in a recent message to John Leary dated Tuesday, September 7, 2021: ....... Jesus said: “My son, you have been out evangelizing people so they could be converted for over 25 years. Now the time to bring people to Me is growing short before the coming Warning and the tribulation of the Antichrist. Your mission has been to help save as many souls as you can, and the time to save people from hell is running out. The devil and the media are controlling the minds of many people, but My power is greater. So call on Me and the Holy Spirit to help you every day to have people understand that they are both body and soul, and made to My image with a free will to choose between heaven or hell. My Warning will wake up every person to realize how I will judge each life with your life review and your mini-judgment when people will have a real taste of their future destination. If you love Me and repent of your sins, you will be on the narrow road to heaven. But if you ignore Me and refuse to repent of your sins, you will be on the broad road to hell.... Ref: http://www.johnleary.com/index.php/?cat=3&order=DESC

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  • John, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Following recent news article on DNAIndia, titled 8 massive asteroids larger than the pyramids head towards Earth in October-November ...... "A flurry of asteroids is racing towards Earth with each estimated to be large enough in size to be categorised as a Potentially Hazardous Object." ... https://www.dnaindia.com/science/report-8-asteroids-larger-than-pyramids-head-towards-earth-in-october-november-2915032/amp

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  • PAMELA BUNYAN, MANGALORE

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. Amen. Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Amen. . Matthew 7:15-16 “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Amen. Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them. Amen. John 8:32 – “And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” Amen. May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen. 2 Corinthians 13:14 The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace. Numbers 6:24-26

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  • Ramesh Kajava, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    I had completed my education in an convent school and college and we had seperate subjects when it came to religion. Prayer to was to only God not any specific. People who are lashing out now too speak in English which is a foreign language, why don’t they speak in Hindi. They will wear English mens suit boot and talk about Hindustan. Start wearing Indian wear . Wear Mundu etc why wear suit boot.

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  • Ajay Alva, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Time for a press conference by one of the Congress leaders. BTW,, why are they now quiet? Mapillla Paat , play back singer from Trishur should be called.

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  • A.M. Belma, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    All I can say is , Stop barking on the online forums and get your act together. Do not expect others to fight it out for you. We have experienced this.

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  • Joe, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Result of this Survey will Mangalore has 70 percent Christian population as all those have been educated in our schools and colleges are converted from young age to be better humans.

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  • Shankar, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Cynthia, Flavian, Jossey, I want a frank answer to my honest query. I don't want illogical answers from anyone else. The diversion of priorities infact affect the religion.

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  • Cynthia, Dk

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Why you can see only three of us in this forum Lan sir? Judge like honest answer here too!! For honest answer you have to approach religious heads and missionaries.... Hmmm....

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  • Joel, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Where is your query anyways?

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  • Cynthia, Dk

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Question follows........ He is busy preparing questionnaire

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  • Alfria, Manglore/Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    Shankar please we all are waiting for your query,! I have to leave on world tour so please ask your question if you have finished preparing it.

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  • John Tauro, M'lore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    So far there had been only allegations, but no convictions in cases of forcible conversions. Over 20 years ago Australian missionary Graham Staines and his 2 innocent sons were burnt alive in car on mere allegations of forcible or conversions by inducement of material benefits. So let there be fair anti-conversion law including punishment for those filing false cases of conversion by coercion or inducements. We don’t want any Graham Staines type tragedies to be repeated in the country.

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  • Ozy, Surathkal

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Do survey how many people lost jobs and how many MSMEs closed and how many people did suicide after demonetisation, GST implementation and due to COVID mismanagement.

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  • Gangaram, Moodbidri

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This is the outcome of Christians education system to educate most of people in India. Christians educated poor people for betterment of the society and the educated are now paying reward to Christians by doing such laws!!! This is like laati dekar maar khane ka!!!

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  • John, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Finally not only communist high tech conversion but depopulation of common people also planned it definately looks like ...... God gives or saves life, communists ruthlessly kill. Following elite and communist vaccines destroy or kill with or through their bio weapon Viruses and Vaccines wars or crime against humanity. It is their evil greed for supremacy and plans for ruthless communist control the world through depopulation and economic losses on all other nations through these (virus fearing) lockdowns ........ With following, Elite Big Billionaires and Communist chinese, along with their money making liberal BigPharma, BigTech, WHO and controlled media, paid fact checkers, liberal trolls, agents, likely commission to ruling and opposition parties worldwide to push their Trillions of Dollors of prepanned medical tyrannical vaccines brands including AstraZeneka's covishield for general public, Instead of Getting SAVED, life expectancy REDUCED to less than 5 YEARS only ? Following recent Divine message says so and Remedy for it, Ayurvedic ? by Blessed Virgin Mary ........ MESSAGE GIVEN BY OUR LADY TO WILLIAM COSTELLIA ON WEDNESDAY 15TH SEPTEMBER 2021 MESSAGE NO. 834 Feast of Our Lady of Sorrows .... .... "Mankind believe by vaccinating themselves that they have been saved, but on the contrary, these vaccinations – Moderna, Pfizer, Astra Zeneca and Johnson & Johnson – will be [to] their detriment, as the vaccination is a poison to the human race brought on by the Evil One. But to those who refuse to take the vaccination, they will see what the vaccination will do, as within five years, many of those who took the vaccination will die.” ...... “For those who are confused, there is a way you can control the vaccination within your body and like this product – (Marseille’s Thieves Oil) – it will help to dilute the product within your body – and turn to prayer.” ..... Ref: https://littlepebble.org/2021/09/16/message-834-15-september-2021/

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  • Dsouza, Mudarangadi/udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Appriciable move, all should be under states registry.

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  • Naveen, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Now this is a new plan for shift people attention from Price Rise . Loot mar Govt

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  • Observer, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    For better results you people should think about to abolish castiesm, treat all hindus equally without discrimination, propegate significance of Hinduism from holy scriptures and feed and accomodate them properly with good governance. But I dont think any of them above guidelines will tend to work as long as upper caste dominate the community.

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  • Sunil Pinto, dubai/udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    There are more hindus who come and pray at Christian religious places than Christians....one that I can think of is St Lawrence Church, Attur near Karkala. BJP upper castes should stop lower castes hindus from visiting such religious places...question is, can they??

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  • pili, jemmaghar@yahoo.co.in

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    why christian missionaries? there are no other religions? hie many christians coverted to other religions? account them also.

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  • Joshua, Mangalore/Roma/Italy

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Those who raise voice against Christians lord will send pandamic again like Corona.You people still not learn from Corona!! Word of God says donot touch my prophet and do no harmto my anointed ones.Read Psalms105:15 and 1Chronicles16:22 Therefore don't herrass Christians or Christian missionaries. Be careful or face the consequences like another pandemic.

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  • AD, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Ghar wapsi is forced upon and illegal

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  • roy Indian, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    some missionaries like "new life" are spoiling Christianity name and this is effecting specially roman catholic people . state govt should see this matter briefly.

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  • Lokesh, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This elected devils of the dadiwala tea boy are after religion politics. Now to shift attention from rising prices

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  • Sampath, Mlore/ Blore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Religion is the opium running in thier viens. Apart from it. they donot know anything, and the current day our country/ people are paying the heavy price.

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  • Cynthia, Dk

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Govt has undertaken any survey about the rapists/murderers/molesters and so on ? Govt has taken any survey to check how many cases are solved ? Govt has taken any survey to check its citizens are self sufficient/happy/has job/living condion of theirs???

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    after reading comments, looks like andha bhaktha breed exists across religions... it seems to be common problem of all religions... some say sanatana dharma is world religion... some say christianity is the only path to salvation.. some say who does not believe in our religion is infidel...

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    after reading comments, looks like andha bhaktha breed exists across religions... it seems to be common problem of all religions... some say sanatana dharma is world religion... some say christianity is the only path to salvation.. some say who does not believe in our religion is infidel...

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  • damian, bejai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    To begin with people should start reading the Bible. As said earlier, Christianity is not religion, it is life.. Accept Jesus as the personal Lord and Savior

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  • Shuba, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Total foolishness of the government adopting to unwanted methods to gain their publicity. At this time the people are just trying to get back to their daily needs and the people of the state require better jobs and disciplinary action in education sector and creating new infrastructure for betterment of all. There may be plenty of citizens who are displaced due to covid and agricultural work could not be taken place. Whichever religion we may belong end of the day its always for Roti Kapda Makaan!

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  • Manu, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Very good move, if you are not doing any illegal activities then why fear? ಕುಂಬಳ ಕಾಯಿ ಕದ್ದ ಎಂದಾಗ ಹೆಗಲು ಮುಟ್ಟಿ ನೋಡಿದ ಅಂತೆ !!

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  • Daniel, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    means time is ripe, The Grain of Wheat is fallen already.......

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  • Cynthia, Dk

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Let our govt survey. We welcome this plan🤝🤝...Now, they will understand who is getting converted ? And why Christian community is not increasing even after conversions ? And why we are still 2 percent ?? (not even 2.....but below 2) One Simple experiment for all who read this news as well as for others....just sit in your house and throw a glance around your house in your area or at the surroundings of your relatives/friends.....abd try to get the numbers as to how many families around your house got converted into Christianity? If everyone does this survey individually, govt do not have to spend so much on such issue....My area till now no one got converted ....What govt can say, outwardly people might follow their religion out of fear of their community....but from the heart and mind they wirship the gods of their choice. Govt has measures to check so ?

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  • Ram Rahim Robert, manglaore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    very true baye...the only problem is that these surveys will be doctored by the people who will survey..basically the contract will be given to organizations like RSS, BD, VHP...they will give false report.

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  • Cynthia, Dk

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Don't worry. Govt is creating the job for them...Let them work or dont work ....they will be getting salary based on fake survey. Thats why i say, if everyone does survey, from their own house and submit the report through their panchayat/mcc such extravaganza nuisances can stop.

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  • Ram Rahim Robert, manglaore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    one thing is for sure....if anyone tries to sue nuns and priests of Christian community for no reason...they will meet the same fate as DySP Ganapathi...the power of Lord Jesus will drive them mad and they cannot sleep in the night with peace...you have seen how the Lord sent floods in Orissa after the Christian missionary and his sons were burnt alive...Praise be to God...Our Lord is merciful..slow to anger..but when he gets angry the ones who are in front will get burnt...

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  • Cynthia, Dk

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Ram, this is not relevant here sueing and all. Don't defend anyone. Your religion teaches your god is merciful and not revengeful. He is forgiving father everytime. How come so many religious heads expired during second wave? Whose curse? See, don't speak abt Orissa. Tribal people were brainwashed is true. Those innocent people got dragged, raped (in public, n by many) harassed, molested, killed, murdered, burnt, houses were ransacked, destroyed, made them to stay in the forest.... for whose fault? Very innocent, uneducated ppl paid for someones fault. It's their blood, they cries, their agony, (aakrandan, vilap) touched the almighty and natural disasters happened. Not by your sue or thuu. Though these were converted remained strong in their faith and many died martyr for Christ. Everyone knows what is going on.... Everyone knows what happened. Good u raised dis point.

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  • ANNU, Mlore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    No one can win over Jesus Christ. What ever you do. Just impossible. Miracles happen only by Jesus Christ. Ask those who experienced him. He lives.

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  • Ganesh, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    It is not about worshipping Jesus Christ, Hindus worship everything including Jesus Christ as its is a polytheist religion.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    He has just taken up CM position and started working hard for non-essential issues leaving all the other economic, employment, welfare other development based activities. This is BJP agenda. chase congress and chase minorities ! (at any cost) He never condemned BD & Immoral police activities and taking law in their hands. Is this a secular government ?

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  • Dinesh, Dubai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    The Hidden Agenda is coming out Govt. don't have anything to show on their progress sheet ,they have only this work Now conversion of heart required.....

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  • John, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Following on communist chinese high tech conversion slowly taking place that we are totally blind of. ......... For Conversions, Religions seem fight against each other but Communist Elite and Chinese outsmarted Silicon City Bangalore or We Indians with their technology, billions and communist ideology including media control, state control, lockdowns, disinformation, paid fact checkers....? Where are our technology specialists ?? With slightly modified virus, communists are trying to control whole world with these vaccines? and are half successful? ....... Why DNA vaccines for children? ........ Simple ... Following How eugenicist Bill Gates CONVERT 7 BILLION to godless COMMUNIST using High Tech Nano Particles Vaccines including we Indians with billions of dollor business and millions in agent ( may be ruling, opposition, even medical leaders) commission. Finally everyone needs yearly booster shots to survive or remain alive from hellish health conditions due to vaccine side effects and because their new new viruses for elite business continuity. For surviving adults mRNA / DNA vaccines may come as booster shots for variant or new new viruses. ........ Satanist elite Bill Gates wants to change DNA of 7 billions using vaccine ... Change God created Image and make one Transhuman through DNA /gene modification with vaccines or Technology merged with humans or human2.o or communist controlled Robots (controlled through AI, 5G, Big Brother horus eye Advance surveilance technology and Beast Super computer. ) Finally he wants only selected 500 million to live on earth. ... A 2 minute video in his own words at https://principia-scientific.com/bill-gates-admits-covid-vaccine-changes-dna-now-doctors-rebel/

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Another mad theorist of QAnon whose theories are followed by right wing extremists and Trump supporters who advised his followers not to take Covid vaccines but he and his family secretly took them while he was in White House.

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  • John, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    How your left liberal china j0e ruining US military with forced vaccines now? for communist take over there and selling rest of the world to your left communist china ? Following recent Divine Message to John Leary dated Friday, October 8, 2021... Jesus said: “My people, you are seeing a threat from China on Taiwan with large numbers of planes flying near Taiwan. It is hard to know how well Taiwan is prepared to stop any aggression from China. A good number of computer chips (51%) are made in Taiwan that are sent to your country in the U.S. If China did take over Taiwan, your chip shortage could stop your car manufacturing. Your country needs to make its own chips because you may not be able to depend on cheap chips in foreign countries. Your Biden government is questionable in building up your Navy and chip making capability. You could see your country at war with a poor commander-in-chief running your military. All he cares about is that the military take the Covid shots which will ruin your soldiers ability to fight a war. If your lives are threatened, I will bring My faithful to My refuges.” Ref: http://www.johnleary.com/index.php/?cat=3&order=DESC

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  • Dylan, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This is the only work the Government can do, no development works. MLA is only talking rubbish. The very Christian institutions which run the best of schools, colleges, hospitals, orphanages, old age homes and etc. Pioneers in almost all fields.

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  • Prakash.A, Mlore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    My only concern is the 'integrity' of the Committee members. !!

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  • Citizen, Mabgalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This is what happens when you have incompetent,ignorant people who were voted by mistake.Time to boot them out in the next elections

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  • R Bhandarkar, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Just cannot understand conversion and it's purpise. World domination is it? Half the world over it is Christianity.For starters, they Crucified Christ... Right? Now half the World, follows the Master. Remrmber again a Follower can never be a Master ! That is the problem with all religions ! An awakened Master has no relegion and that is why he is called so ! Followers for recognition create it !Some say all religions are same, God us one and all that, for mere lip service. It is easy to mouth dialogues. Do adding numbers enhance quality? Don't think so. Does it really transform one's basic nature? Don't think so. Thinking Capacity? No !!! So it is plain that those converting or whatever and those getting converted have different agendas ! And how can I complete anything without some proof and in humor? The other day somebody from Punjab sent me a clip. A sikh was getting converted to christianity ok. Obviously, for there were singing in Chorus ' Praise the Lord, Praise the Lord' as this Sikh was going up some steps and descending down into a pool of bubbling water. A preist in white robes half drenched was already there. Now the preist, made this Sikh float in the water.. sprinkled some water on him, in the name of Trinity and said this " This day Sarabjeet Singh, the Lord has called you and today you have been christened as Charles Shobraj '... The Sikh grinned, got bkessed and made his way back.Name Change. End of story. That clip is also viral.

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  • Prakrithi, Mangalur

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Bhandarkar has explained vry wel what is conversion in short. After dat those who r converting writing the names of converted ppl in deir register

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  • Daniel, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    well said dear R Bhandarkar, Mangaluru as seen by you!! you are not far but the truth is far from what one hears and sees. my some viewpoints; Name change is symbolic but real conversion of Heart is much needed. Conversion of Heart means to Accept & confess Christ as the Lord the God and Savior, then to Love and do good deeds following the Master, even to offer oneself to die for others to save. So that one could say "Christ must become greater; I must become less" and put others Name in place of Christ. If done ones own free will and consciousness then it really transform one's basic nature and could become like Christ the Mater- for there are many who were once sinners or offenders transformed as Saints. Jesus Christ said plainly By your Love and good deeds all will know know you are my disciples. Its' not the numbers & religiosity but quality of Living that witness Spirituality.

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  • Alfria, Manglore/Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    The story of the sikh has touched my heart and I think it might have touched the heart of the story teller also it's a pity that such a long narrative is written. This story of the sikh conversion could be easily made into a serial.

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  • R Bhandarkar, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Alfria Madam... Honestly not a serial.A ceremony lasting less than 5 minutes. I had deleted it, but got it back from my friend, in case you wanted to see it.Only when I saw it, it is Simran jeet singh Christened as Sanuels ! Not Sarabjeet as Charles Shobraj ! It was some months back, so names I could not recall correctly.The story in any case was to tickle your funny bone ( u don't have any? )not touch your heart. For touching heart I have so many other stories....You want clip? Send me your whatsapp no. Ok?

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This Cow Govt., market Christianity more than these so called missionaries..., as per one version... there are more Christian believers & followers among Hindus than the official registered Christian population....,(sample which include honorable MLA Golihatti's mother...). Once, we as Hindu's begin to embrace & practice the REAL tenets of Hinduism... like Vasudaiva Kutumbakam, Sarva Dharma Samabhava, Ahimsa paramo dharma, Athiti Devo Bhavanthu.. etc., the whole world will follow us voluntarily..., sadly... even the yoga is given a political & religious touch... Chaiwala/puncture wala grade ideology...

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  • PITU, india

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    LIKE CHRIST, PEACEFUL PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TARGETED BECAUSE WE ARE HARMLESS . CHRIST HIMSELF WAS VERY HUMBLE, BEING GOD HE WAS HARRASSED BADLY AND WAS CRUCIFIED. STILL THIS IS GOING ON NOW AND UNECCESARILY BLAMED. WE ARE BRAVE AND EASILY DONT GIVE UP. AS PER HIS TEACHING IF YOU ARE SLAPPED ON ONE SIDE, WE WILL ALLOW THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL

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  • Paul, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Better do the survey of total population of christians. Christians dont want people from other communities. It is difficult to keep their own community unite.

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  • Deepak, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    All these jokes to divert attention from REAL problems people are suffering from...Price rise of Petrol,Diesel...Unemployment...Failure of govt...etc. The educated people will not be fooled.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    "He has also initiated 'Ghar wapsi', an initiative to facilitate conversions of Christians to Hinduism." Can any one explain the exact meaning of this statement? He says only forceful conversions and not mention of any one choosing to convert to Christianity voluntarily and vice versa ? I am against forceful conversion or conversion by luring and promises of fin. benefits.

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  • Amith, udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    if you are so against Christians stop sending your children to convent schools and colleges .. stop admitting sick people in Christian run hospitals and stop sending your old parents to missionary run old age homes .. then count the no of schools and colleges and hospitals run by RSS and decide yourself what is the contribution of these missionaries and cheddis ..stop taking FDI from Christian companies abroad and muslims too ... and see where we stand with our GDP and stock market ..economy is gone to dogs and you guys are wasting time on religion ..shame on you uneducated politicians

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  • Alwin, Udupi/Indonesia

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Forceful conversion is wrong, one should not indulge in forceful conversions, this has led to an entire community (Christians) being on spot light for the acts of few. If someone wants to convert, he or she shall approach Church, Mosque or Temple and wilfully request that he or she wants to convert to that particular faith. Focus to preaching inside Church/Mosque or Temple, no need to be on the streets distributing pamphlets, we have all religious TVs now available on our finger tips, if someone wants to understand other religion, they can do it on TV or on YouTube.

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    those who have touched da churches with bad intentions have never live, lived happily in their personal life or in their political life. so do not commit blunders by blaming, sacrilegiously touching da churches. you may survive 4 a time being. but not in your future life. c da fate of yeddy, ahmed deedat, zakir naik.

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  • Varun, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    As long there is no coercion nor promise of monetary gains, conversion to other religions should not be an issue. The bigger issue is widespread caste discrimination in hindu society which leads many people to leave Hinduism and embrace other religions. Its more fruitful if hindu religious and political leaders address caste discrimination in hindu society. Not allowing some caste people to enter places like temple what do they expect. Some people obviously get disillusioned and go to other religios where they are welcomed. Time to introspect and change discrimination practises first

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  • Dylan, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This is the only work the Government can do, no development works. MLA is only talking rubbish. The very Christian institutions which run the best of schools, colleges, hospitals, orphanages, old age homes and etc. Pioneers in almost all fields.

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  • sanjay pinto, manglaore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    now the govt will slap all false cases on Christian orphanages, convents, churches and confiscate them...very difficult times as said in Bible...God is our protector...he will definitely curse the people who will trouble the community and send calamities like it was sent during Moses time...Praise the Lord Jesus Christ..Amen..

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  • Edmond, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    real kujuma, manglaore: they have asked not to do conversion. Why the hell we need to do. If other religion person following our religion thats their individual thing. Would you allow someone from Muslim to convert to Hindu or Christian? Why you want spread nuisense in the society. Be a human first .

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  • Mc, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    What is the guarantee that these people will not term such willful change as forced conversions?

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  • Rahul, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Some people's are carving their own graves by indulging in pretty politics. They are widening the gaps between the communities & religions for their hidden agendas. Almighty save us & my nation before it's too late.

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  • Aam Aadmi, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    I wont be suprised if its found out later that BJP was financed by hostile foreign forces to rupture India from within. All these harassment meted out to minorities in the name of Conversion or Fake Love Jihad will antagonize against the state. BJP is truly an evil organization

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  • GURKA, Mangaluru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    This is a totally crap idea to satisfy the HINDU voters !!!!! its a retarded persons who cant understand what is the total population of CHRISITIANS in all over India. By going their false facts then the Christian population would have considerably increased by now to the percentage of 25 to 30 percent. By that, Christians are diminishing day by day like PARSI population . One more interested fact that those who are in minority category status they are the highest contributed to the development of iNDIA by Education and Industry. Take look on Christian and Parsi

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Thane

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    People convert into Christianity because it is the only Religion which has proof of Existence ...

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    another variety of andha bhaktha...

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  • Dsouza, Mudarangadi/udupi

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Dear jossey, what do you mean proof of existance?!

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  • L D'Souza, Mangalore/USA

    Fri, Oct 15 2021

    Jesus walked on this earth. It is a historical fact. He is not some kind of mythical character. The genealogy of Jesus has been recorded at length both by historians and biblical scholars. In several parts of the world, it has been taught in schools since it is a part of World History. So no "made up" facts or stories here. I encourage you to open up your New Testament and begin reading it since you are "D'Souza" (Catholic). You would be happy to know that your religion is founded on true historical facts and events. Those events took place at specific geographical locations. Also please read Acts of the Apostles. After the death and resurrection of Jesus, his disciples preached the gospel through out Judea, Samaria and to all parts of the world. That is how Christianity was founded. Based on facts alone!

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  • real kujuma, manglaore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    noose is tightening my christian brothers and sisters..chaddis are showing their true colours...be careful and report any atrocity to your religious fraternity...time for christians all over karnataka to unite and fight against the onslaught of chaddis

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  • RANA, Mlore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    kujuma,Give your suggestion to your Chaddiless brainless brothers in Afghanistan,pakistan,syria,Libya yamen iraq,Nigeria Ethiopia. people dying daily in bomb blast

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  • k b r, Mangala Uru

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    oye raanaa... pls bother about our country... why you bother abt Afghanistan,pakistan,syria,Libya yamen iraq,Nigeria Ethiopia etc. etc. etc..... if you are concerned abt those countries, pls migrate and help them...

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  • Tilak, Pune

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    Okay , please comment on tippu sultan as he is native to india.

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  • Ganesh, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 14 2021

    we bother because there some of our own have joined ISIS and also there is Gazwa e Hind. Further Isllam does not beleive in boundaries and there is a struggle to rule over by a caliph and not by a democratically elected leader.

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