Oppn seeks demonetisation debate in LS under voting rule


New Delhi, Nov 17 (PTI): A united opposition's relentless demand for a debate on demonetisation under a rule which entails voting today forced the adjournment of the Lok Sabha for the day as the government refused to accept it.

Parliamentary Affairs Minister Ananth Kumar said the government was willing to debate the issue under Rule 193, which does not entail voting, as it did not want two voices to emerge from Parliament, drawing incessant protests from the opposition.

As opposition parties refused to budge, Speaker Sumitra Mahajan adjourned proceedings for the day after a 25-minute adjournment earlier. The House was adjourned for the yesterday as a mark of respect for a sitting member who had passed away in August.

As soon as the House met, Trinamool Congress leader Sudip Bandhyopadhyay said his party wanted to move an adjournment motion.

Leader of the Congress party in Lok Sabha Mallikarjun Kharge said his party too wanted to move a similar motion to discuss the "hardship being faced by the people and the economic disruption and the failure of the government to redress the plight of the people."

He said another issue his party wanted to flag was the "leakage" of the information on demonetisation before it came into force.

The Question Hour between 1100 hours and noon went on amid continued vociferous protests and sloganeering by opposition members, including those from Congress, TMC, the Left, SP and RJD. Members of some other parties, including AIADMK, were also seen in the aisle.

"We all want a discussion under the Rule 56 so that we can know what is the stand of all parties when they vote. Then everyone will participate," Kharge said.

Kumar insisted that people at large are with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's decision on demonetisation.

"They want black money, fake currency... to be finished. We want cooperation from you. We are ready to discuss. We do not want two voices to emerge from Parliament," he said.

Bandhopadhyay said opposition parties were together. "We are in a mood to censure the government," he said.

Soon after the Question Hour, the Speaker said she had disallowed all the adjournment notices, including one moved by BJP ally SAD. Mahajan said she was ready to allow a discussion but not amid such a din and added that all parties will have to decide on its modalities.

RJD's Jai Prakash Narayan Yadav also pressed for an adjournment motion. The Parliamentary Affairs Minister said the government was ready to discuss at length the "historic" decision by suspending the Question Hour but under Rule 193 where there is no formal motion or voting.

He said all political parties are against black money, corruption and fake currency.Rejecting the suggestion, members of Congress, TMC, RJD and Left parties rushed to the Well shouting slogans. AIADMK members to entered the Well, but were raising slogans demanding release of Cauvery water by Karnataka for Tamil Nadu.

As opposition mmbers raised slogans like "Pradhan Mantri jawab do..." and "shame-shame", the Speaker continued with the Question Hour.

 

Earlier news

Oppn protests force two adjournments of Rajya Sabha till noon

New Delhi, Nov 17 (PTI): Opposition parties led by Congress today forced two adjournments in the Rajya Sabha in the pre-noon session demanding a response from Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the hardships caused to people by demonetisation of 500 and 1000 rupee notes.

Slogan-shouting Congress and AIADMK members trooped into the Well, forcing Deputy Chairman P K Kurien to first adjourn the House till 1130 hours and again then till noon.

Soon after the House mourned the passing away of Swaminarayan sect head Pramukh Swami Shastri Narayan Swarup Das, TMC's Derek O'Brien was up on his feet.

As Deputy Chairman P J Kurien allowed O'Brien to make his submission, slogan shouting AIADMK members trooped into the Well raising slogans demanding that Karnataka release Cauvery water to Tamil Nadu.

They however went back to their seats after Kurien assured that he will allow their leader A Navaneethakrishnan to speak after the TMC leader.

All hell broke lose when Derek asked where the Prime Minister was when the House discusses hardships and inconvience caused by the decision to withdraw old 500 and 1000 rupee notes.

"The person who made the (demonetisation) announcement at 8 o'clock on November 8, where is he," he said.

Treasury benches countered him vociferously with even Ministers including I&B Minister M Venkaiah Naidu rising to counter the demand.

At this point, Congress members trooped into the Well of the House shouting "Pradhan Mantri Jawab do" (Prime Minister, reply)."

Kurien said the discussion on demonetisation was going on smoothly. "If Finance Minister is available, that is enough," he said.

The discussion, which was initiated after suspending listed business of the day yesterday, could be resumed if the House is in order, he said. "We can start discussion now," he said.

At this point, AIADMK members also trooped into the Well shouting slogans, forcing Kurien to adjourn the House till 1130 hours.

There was no change in the scenario in the House when it reassembled at 1130 hours. AIADMK members again trooped into the Well, followed by their Congress counterparts.

BSP chief Mayawati was seen standing her seat as were several members of SP and Left parties.

Naidu rose to make a statement but he could not be heard in the din caused by AIADMK and Congress members in the Well. Kurien expunged certain references to the Prime Minister made by some opposition members.

"Prime Minister cannot be referred to like that. Reference to Prime Minister is expunged," he said, as he tried to pacify members raising slogans in the Well. "I don't know why are you shouting," Kurien said.

As his efforts to bring order in the House did not bear fruit, Kurien adjourned the House till noon.

  

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  • Vincent Rodrigues., Frazer Town,Bangalore

    Sat, Nov 19 2016

    Why the government to worry to comply the opposition demands if they are on right in their action

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  • Robert Pais, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Initiate debate on tax reforms in the lower house.

    Do not paralyze the government rather be the initiator for tax reforms. Give incentives for small business people.

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  • SMR, Karkala

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    BJP is full majority in Lok Sabha. Tt should not fear if the interest is in the favor of countries development and to eradication black money.

    This is the same BJP called for debate on the basics of voting in the past when UPA was in ruling.

    BJP which only believed in 'operational kamala' and horse trading in the past may be fear of losing popularity.

    If such circumstances arises even BJP doesn't have enough new paper bills to buy opposition votes.

    BJP may not have thought of voting but demonetisation even make them worry to say no 'voting' debate.

    Jai Hind



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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Guru,

    Namaskara.

    I do agree your point of view.
    Kashmir (terrorist acts) have subsided and common mans problem increased throughout India.
    I still emphasize that the move against black money corruption is totally appreciated and I hope that some positive signs will emerge out of this action.
    I depend only on the bad impact on common man.
    I have gone through the Iraq occupation of Kuwait and consequent war like situation during eliminating Saddam. Emergency drill in the Bank and proper stock pile of water, candles rice & dal. I can never forget. During occupation I lost 10 Kilos within 40 days.

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  • The Guru, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Bad impact is there to common man when there is illegal flow of money as well.. Common man will feel the paid, but think what will India be like when there is no illegal, Hawala money entering into the economic system of our country...

    Its good for the future generation and also for the present generation when economy is clean..

    Note: Any reform done by any government has a impact on common man..

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  • Roshan, Mangaluru

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    The people who talk of national interest are the biggest hypocrates. They find no wrong with Illgal mining barron, BJP Reddy spending lavishly over 500cr, for his daughters wedding.
    Further, it is BJP who is in power with PDP in JnK. PDP is a known sympathiser of kashmiri seperatists. So, BJP practically no credibility left to talk about national interst.

    Nation comes first etc., talks from BJP is Pheda to make common patriotic indians Yheda.

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  • Raj, Bangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Who stopped the congress govt of Nidderamayya to file a case against Reddy's lavish wedding ?

    DisAgree [9] Agree [3] Reply Report Abuse

  • kas, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Who stopped the central govt of Reddy slaves to file a case against Reddy's lavish wedding ?
    Wake up man....IT is under central and NOT state ....

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  • Roshan, Mangaluru

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Ans: FEKU

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Jan Dhan Yojana is now Kala Dhan ...

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  • Flavian, Mangalur/Kuwait

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Why only Bangalore? I heard that even in Mangalore the trade is in practice. Chupke chupke.
    That too in 10's of Lakhs.
    Person with nil income take advantage. (upto 2.5 Lakh is not questionable but commission need to paid or settled)
    Are Bhaia
    Sub kuch chal raha hai
    Kala danda abhee se shuru hogaya.
    There are no Mahathmas in India, as we proclaim.

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  • Prem Prasad, Bangalore, KSA

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Here some Indians collect 500 and 1000 rupee demonetized currency for exchange on commission basis.

    DisAgree [3] Agree [7] Reply Report Abuse

  • jeevan, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    PAPPU MUST GO FOR HUNGER STRIKE....

    DisAgree [21] Agree [13] Reply Report Abuse

  • Gangaram, Moodbidri

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Already 120 crores are on hunger, you want to add more to that?

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  • indian, india

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Gangaram, Moodbidri

    Thursday, November 17, 2016


    Already 120 crores are on hunger, you want to add more to that?

    suddenly became poor or since congi rule? answer me pls

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Pray for Sushma ...

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  • Flavian , Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Sid,
    Stop comparing Rahul. Rahul is not our PM and no possibilities. Even if he was PM he would not have taken such drastic, unanimous decision. Now the great person has taken a bold step against black money without bearing in mind the bad consequence and right preparation in case of any eventualities. ATM's are being calibrated or software & hardware is attended now. Currency is running short because nobody is sitting quiet including those who support are making full use of their DEBIT/ CREDIT cards with full force. ATM's get exhausted. Intelligent and educated guys stop withdrawing cash and allow the needy people withdraw badly needed cash. Nobody wants to sacrifice for other and it is chaos and outcry because of bad planning. Admit that first and start abusing others.

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  • The Guru, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Flavian , Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Common people is ready to accept all the things which you have stated, but they will never accept the hawala, illegal money to be used for pelting stones at Army..

    Note: There is no stone pelting reported in Kashmir in last 8 days and board exams are going on smoothly..

    National Interest First then comes everything

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  • vivek, hirebyle/Abu dhabi

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Opposition have no moral rights to protest ....demonitizing .....they can laud about the delay ...and normalcy of situation....after all Congress don't have a good leader ....a person who can reply is kejriwal...but not sure his aim....what good for India is stable government under modi....what modi achieved by this demonitizing time will tell....seems like modi dig his own grave ...unless a magic will not happen...

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  • m, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    This is all they can do...shout in parliament and force adjournment..but what to do? Modi will not take back this step..cry as much as you want...

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  • Amith, udupi

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    If its Modi's biggest achievement as he claims ..then he has to be in parliament to defend it ..why is he absconding ??dont worry Modiji no one will lynch you as you claim ..show your 56 inch chest and answer the nation ..

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  • william, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    days are not far to return to original business of Kadak Chai making after too much of fake schemes, speeches and globe trotting at others expenses.

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Where the action plan was not discussed in the Parliament and with expert committee. SC a word with President, importantly with Opposition member. Now every second person admits that it was a Dictatorial, Unilateral action taken by one person superseding all the norms of elected government. Few Ministers must have supported and now they are defending too.
    It’s not like teaching a lesson to and within the family members. Indian’s will demand an answer.

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  • TRUE INDIAN, IXE

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    FIFTEEN LAKH KE LAALAJ MEI, VOTE DIYA THA MODI KO.

    ABHI LOG NAAARAAZ HAI.

    KHOON PAISINE KE COMMON PEOPLE KE PAISE SE, VIJAY MALLYA KA LOAN MAAF.

    YEH KYA HAI ACCHE DIN.

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  • Sunil Kamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Forget getting the 15 lacs. Now getting access to OUR own money is a big problem. Let us all get together and make 282 to zero in 2019. #282to0

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Chaaiwaala has created Black Money exchanging Agents on Commissions basis. No matter his ink will sink in fingers.

    THE GOVERNMENT CAN CLAP IN ONE HAND AND THE BLACK MONEY HOLDERS PLUS THE BLACK MONEY AGENTS BOTH CAN CLAMP IN BOTH HANDS.

    THIS IS CALLED LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE PRIOR TO DEMONETIZATION OF RUPEE.

    Next time don't choose a correspondence course BA MA Duplicate degree holder to the administration. HE CAN ONLY SHOUT 24X7 IN T.V'S.

    SMRITI IRANI HAS SHUT HER MOUTH FOR THE TIME BEING.

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  • sid, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Chelas have full faith in the expertise of PAPPU , he would have announced 3 months in advance and planned to clear all black money to white and every one would be so HAPPY and living ever after LOL

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Dear sid, mangalore,

    BJP'S BHAKTS ARE NOT ONLY CHEILAS THEY ARE FAKE COW ROBBERS, AND MURDERERS OF HUMANS.

    PLUS HOLDERS OF BIG BLACK MONEY.

    HAS THE DEMONETIZATION NEWS WAS KEPT SECRET. HOW COME THE BJP MEN HAVE DEPOSITED BLACK MONEY PRIOR TO DEMONETIZATION???!!!

    NOW THEY ARE CRYING FOUL.

    FACE THE MUSIC IN RAJYA SABHA AND IN THE PUBLIC.

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  • The Guru, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Apply burnol to the correct hole it might also lead to piles if not consulted with the doctor wearing udda langa

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Dear The Guru, Mangalore,

    INFORM YOUR CHAAIWAALA TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS WHICH YOU HAVE WRITTEN AND YOU CAN ALSO ASSIST HIM

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  • sid, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Chelas can only support the dongis on Dongi Baji . They did nothing to curb black money . now when some one has the guts to do it they are crying . Dongis remain Dongis and Chelas are so much CHELAS !

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  • MHK, Udupi

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    Can he do Chest thumping in Parliament in front of MP or only in front of bhakths ?

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  • TRUE INDIAN, IXE

    Thu, Nov 17 2016

    I AM HEARING SLOGANS FROM MODI BHAKTS, DO U BELIVE

    GALI GALI SHOR HAI, FEKU CH@3 HAI.

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