Bajrang Dal attacks Christian bhawan in Bihar town


Patna, Jan 11 (IANS): A group of Bajrang Dal activists Sunday attacked and vandalized the Christian bhawan (building) at a Bihar town, police said.

The incident created panic among the small Christian community -- who demanded police protection for their security -- in Jehanabad town of the same district, 52km from Patna.

"Some Bajrang Dal activists attacked and vandalized the Christian bhawan at Jehanabad town," a district police official said.

They were apparently protesting against the alleged conversion of poor Hindus by Christians.

They also blocked National Highway 83 connecting state capital Patna to Gaya district.

Later, however, the accusation of conversion was proved baseless.

According to police, the activists attacked the building at Jehanabad because the Christian priest at the bhawan had allegedly lured poor Hindus into converting. The latter told the police that some people had informed them that Christians had been practising conversion at the bhawan.

"The fact was that local Christian residents used to gather at the bhawan for weekly prayers as well as to socialise with each other. There was no evidence of conversion," police officials said.

In the last one-and-half months, more than 200 poor Hindus, mostly Mahadalits, embraced Christianity across the state.

The right-wing Hindu organisations -- RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal -- have alleged that the poor Hindus were lured into conversion.

  

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  • Rohan Lobo, Bangkok

    Thu, Jan 15 2015

    sudeep, mangalore Monday, January 12, 2015 : You are Such an Idiot, If you want to say some real things read bible. Then Lets talk.. Dont Comment Blindly
    Even in Mangalore Christians One who serve by hospitals and Schools for all community Our ashrams still hosts all religion homeless people. go to anyahsrams they never convert all who stay at ashrams still follow their religion. we never do any hatred to any community. this is what our religion is rather than a god. We don't have a groups called Bajarang DAL or VHP who just teach hatred and to pelt stones on people. do you do anything good to your society forget about society i have seen plenty of BD members who just beat people and drink alcohol with silly earn money and eat in the night of their sisters or mothers earning (who earn by beedi binding or day labour wages) instead taking hatred or doing nuisance Ghar vapasi do some good to your home and your community at least.

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  • abhyankar, mumabai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    isthis news 100 percent corect. once i saw one news of bihar on tv that people caught one thief red handedly, and the crowd beat him badly. the news changed next day as a muslim guy beaten by the crowd. Any way i condemn the attack.

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Frazer Town,B'lore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    You cannot expect anything better than this from Bajarang Dal,a communal organization.But really sad to know that they do all this anti communal activities at the behest of the present central government.Shame.

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Well done BD, we are with you.

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  • stan, dubai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Good comment... some people who worship good god as god... some worship satan as god....some worship Rama is incarnation of god but some worship Ravana is incarnation of god, some worship Gandhiji as father of nation and some build temple for the killer, who cannot judge which is correct or which is wrong, such people will comments like this.

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Stan, what about new life, will you hate them? root cause of this problem you are into conversion. Everyone respect & worship god, why you invite others, you worship you god don't call others to join. If you try to lure, this is what you get in return.

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  • Ranjith, udup

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    These bajrang dal people think all hindus are one.....let these lower caste hindus try marrying a brahmin girl and see the opposition by upper caste hindus....

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    i can give u ample examples in my own friends circle about so called upper caste and so called lower caste inter caste marriage.

    i will explain by giving a example:

    parents C&D are from so called upper caste X
    thier daughter is well educated and in a good job.

    person B also from caste X educated and not in a permanent job.

    person W is well educated/5 figure paying job and but from so called lower caste Y

    if these are 2 choices for parents C&D, then they will opt for person W and not person B.

    moral of the story:

    these days of globalisation ,hi-fi job,charecter of the person,his ability to maintain the family and family values matter and not caste

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  • Ahmed, Bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    The very next word always comes in news along with Bajrangdal is ATTACK ..this is a terrorist organization ..Have guts to call a terrorist a terrorist

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Joseph,

    I strongly detest you calling the prime minister chaiwalla. What does that mean?? A person who is selling chai cant be a prime minister.

    Though i agree many in BJP are idiots.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    People,

    We need to address the big elephant in the room and admit that there is no god and discard religion. Only then we can move towards the next step i.e, peace.

    If one group think that their god is superior than the god of other group we cannot reach an agreement. there can never be a peaceful solution for that.

    I know that i will get a lot of disagrees on my comment but just think.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    i cant understand one thing .every group is persistent that thier god is supreme.why cant everyone worship god in thier houses and temples/church/mosques instead of bringing it to public domain and those who do not believe god let they be like that.

    by indulging in this petty thing of tu tu mein mein.
    precious time and energy is being wasted.

    today even after many decades no one is worried about how to cure diabetes,hyper tension,blood pressure,migraine,aids,cancer,food mixed with toxins,polluted water and air and other lifestyle diseases which have become real enemies of this world.

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sunil, here I fully agree with you. Any religious function should be restricted to his home or to the religious place.... Here after , shall we stop all religious functions at govt offices, and remove all religious photos from the walls of the govt offices...Sunil nice suggestion, let us implement for communal harmony....

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    And also no religious processions on roads....What ever the function, let them conduct in temples / mosques / churches......

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  • Agee, Indian - UAE

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    what would be your reaction, if you are born without a father and mother...

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Agree,

    Dont equate parent to religion. they are not similar.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    DEVELOPMENTS UNDER CHAAIWAALA PRIME MINISTER.
    1) Forcible conversions.
    2) Vandalizing Christian prayer house in Bihar by BD.
    3) Ghar-Vaapsi programme from RSS and VHP.
    4) Bhagvat Geeta is to lose it as a religious book there by making it a National Book.
    5) Imposing Hindi in Southern India.
    6) No corruption Mukth Bhaarath.
    7) Black money is a complex issue which involves several International treaties – frogs of Gujarat.
    8) Government offices sweeping program in holy-cow urine.
    9) Every citizen of this country is originally Hindus.
    10) Hindus should have at least four/4 children.
    11) Temple for Naathu Raam Godse
    12) I sold tea/chaai in the trains.
    13) I have washed utensils in the hotel.
    14) UPA petrol prices – 75 Rupees when International Market was 120$/barrel. NDA 65 rupees and the International Market is 50$/barrel.
    15) Turbine fuel prices decreased and airlines are reducing air ticket prices.
    16) CNG prices are not reduced.
    17) Bangladeshis are offered permanent resident upon becoming a Hindu.- Feku the chaaiwaala said all Bangladeshis ready for deportation.
    18) Fishermen of India are purposely caught and jailed by Pakistan.
    19) Relentless firing from Pakistan.
    20) Acchhe Dhin of Ambani, Adani and Tataas.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    What is your view about BHP ( congi new born baby at puttur Bhartiya Hindu Parishad ) ???

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  • arsh, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    wahh !! you made my day bro !! for all the chai wala supporters... open your eyes and see the reality !! no acche din...

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sunill,

    First, we cant replicate what China has done. Simply because government in china is similar to dictatorship. China does not have the problem of religion to drag them down. What government does is absolute. China has very good infrastructure which india clearly lacks. Indian railways is stuck in the past. Indian military equipment is bought from outside. Indian fighter jet(LCA) is still not inducted after being nearly 30 years since in approval where as china recently tested stealth fighter.

    We in india are bogged down by superstition, religion, caste etc. And top of that the recent surge in fascist movement in india will not help it either. What we all do is how india was glorious in the past. Invent some glorified history to so console our insecurities.

    Lets keep history as it is and lets concentrate on the future. 

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    yes,

    in these days, so called world rulers

    1:use weapons controlling the prices of petrol/oil/gas (recent example is usa/eu trying to teach lesson to russia over annexation of crimea/ukraine) so that the country will not grow strong and replace them as world rulers.

    2:use religion as a tool to divide the people of any country so that chaos settle there therby obstructing the development of that country by putting brakes to that countries rise so that it will not pose a challenge to world rulers.

    china has decimated both these strategies of the current world rulers.

    in china, religion politics never works nor they have problem of oil as neighbouring russia is top oil reserve holder in the world and russia/china are binded by same ideology and hate west countries)

    no politics can be played in china as ther is only one party which always think of nation development.
    they dont even think twice to hang anyone to death if they indulge in corruption even they are from thier own party.

    thats why that country is developing at rapid pace and may even become world policeman in future.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sunill,

    If Russia has oil reserves why has Russia`s economy has collapsed??

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    reason1:

    usa has recently found huge shale reserves in usa almost equal to russia and it is hardselling every countries including india to buy its oil.
    common funda:
    if commodity is available in ab
    undant prices reduce

    reason 2:
    saudi and usa has made a deal that at any cost shia iran should not be a nuke power as sunni saudi will loose its leader status in middle east.who is supporting iran and providing nuke tech?answer:russia.so saudi/usa wants to cripple russia financially.

    in this game,saudi will also face huge finanacial losses. but it has assured usa that it is ready to bear losses if it cuts the wings of russia and therby take russia out of iran in helping them to be nuke power.

    russia should diversify its interests other than selling oil and its outdated defence products
    otherwise it can be easily tamed by tanking the oil prices.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    zeitgeist,

    is ther any other reason why russia economy has collapsed despite its oil reserves?

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  • JANARDHANA ACHARYA, BANGALORE/UDIPI

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    These days even issues pertaining to 2 vakti ki roti also being attacked. It took a decade for somebody to come to power. The last 6 Months impression inside the majority household is Let us go somewhere outside the country.

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  • A N Seshadri, Madurai/Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sunil,

    North Korea and China are both Communist...Both countries banned religion in politics ( EU / American Policy - Church is separated from State )....

    But in China still millions of Christians, Muslims ( Hui's ) and Buddhist still practicing /following their faith under STRICT STATE CONTROL...

    The difference between Chinese and North Korea's leadership is “ VISION “…..

    China under leadership and great visionary Late.Deng Xiao Ping changed the its History by , Correcting its past BLUNDERS and prospered..
    Its great leaders also house arrested and shot dead for “ Corruption and Nepotism “ …and Leadership never transferred within “ Blood Relatives “

    But North Korea biting the dust due to “ APPA MAKKALA PARTY POLITICS “ ( Like BJP , Congress , JDS, SP ), Poor vision, suspicion attitude ( Like Pakistan )

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  • RONALD, BANTWAL

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    can WE ask FEKU if this is called ACCHE DIN, GHAR VAPSI OR DEVELOPMENT.
    MAMU CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION PLS

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  • Rohan Lobo, Bangkok

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Ban Conversion / Ban Beef / Ban Freedom.
    Allow RSS / BD / Modi & Shah,
    We are heading to Dark ERA Again. Whole world is concerned of Population these uneducated Or Pretending to be ? / Ediotic MP's from BJP talk bull shit.
    Yes We are heading towards Dark Era!
    Forget Competing with China or Other Nations we are 1000's of mile away from their achievement Path. this will get worse even more in coming year till this communal and U TURN Government Vanish from ruling.

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  • sudeep, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Competing is not mean of converting innocents man open your ... thum log convert karna oh developmnt hai jo ghar wapasi kesari karn hotha hai.. tho thumari christianisation currect ,... or 1000 year back thum christian so hum hindu nahi hai.. abhi be thum surya bhumi chakkar martha hai or bhumi golakar nahi plate ki thara hai bolke apni bible me padthe ho ande log.... and i reques dijiworld to post this rpl to Mr.Lobo

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Can I ask FEKU if this is called DEVELOPMENT ...

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  • Rosario Fernandes, Kallianpur

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    The subject of religion has to be strictly within the respective houses,temples, churches, Musjids etc, as the case may be. Any religious ceremonies,sermons, discussions, openly has to be BANNED.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    If religious conversions is OK then religious reconversion(ghar wapsi) should also be acceptable.....
    WHY WE SHOULD NOT ENACT ANTI CONVERSION LAW ???

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  • Lily Grace, Mangalore/Mumbai/Dubai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Guys, many of you are taking the message differently. Do any of you have the proof that the conversion has taken place? Instead remember India is of people of many communities or religions and this is from the beginning. We do not interfere in any religion and we respect. This is the political game. Lets pray that God gives them wisdom to understand that they are born in their individual religion and practice the same without any interference with any religion.

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  • William Rodrigues, Milagres, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Not only that, the top exporter of beef today in India, is he a Hindu(a Jain), a Muslim or a Christian?

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  • avinash, ksd/bluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Ban conversion!! everything will go right.

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Is it so easy ??, it needs the amendment of Constitution, where the practice of religion is guaranteed....

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  • shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    The crook LK Advani first sow the seeds of hate and division and later RSS and BJP patronized it and promoted...RIP Advani/RSS/BJP and its goonda parivar

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Yaar, I guess Bihar is led by the KHANgress hence this lawlessness. It is better to bring in Anti conversion law. Meanwhile ulta harkath karne walo ko bara bar laath marna chahiye.

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  • Alfred, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Lingappakhan, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam
    Read some books and know Indian states as to who which political party is ruling which state Singly do not BLAH BLAH, You are in Amsterdam you serve your masters there, Why bother about what is happening in India, if you have so much love for India come and serve here. and learn first before commenting

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  • steven, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Huan you are the one hiding and shooting from someone shoulder. Khan has organized rally in mangalore see and comment on that if you have daring. Christians are followers of Peace and Love and like fekugiri thats why we become easy targets understand Amsterdam. BTW do you not asked by your friends about their belief or practices festivities in Amestrudrum

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Steven ,, your comments are stupid and you sound like a religious fanatic, I would dare to comment on any article like you guys do, something sensible of course. Yeah I am in Amsterdam but not as a housemaid in Gelf..Hope the message is driven clear.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Lingappa,

    whome are you referring to when you say KHANgress... who is khan??

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sunil you commented -anti forcible conversion law like the one in Gujarat needs to be implemented
    Like this cow slaughter ban is a law in Gujarat. STILL Gujarat is topping in BEEF EXPORTS....It is not going to my bheja...

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Most imperatively recover all the loss from BD and shut those guys inside the jail.

    Chaaiwaala has given the laws of the constitution in the hands of goondaas to create chaos.

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  • Indian, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sabka Saath (BD,RSS,VHP,ASHARAM,SHAH)
    Sabka Vikaaas
    (BD,RSS,VHP,ASHARAM,SHAH)

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  • rakesh, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    ahhh.. CHADDI...!!!!

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  • clvie, kuwait

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    In the name of fighting conversion, BD people are taking law in their own hands.
    If they really want to stop conversion, they should also take up the case of social upliftment of the lower castes in society. But old habits die hard. Goondas will always be goondas only.

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  • shams, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    bulls**t

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  • Lavina , Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Dear Manju, please take back your baseless accusation against conversion. In USA and European countries Hare Krishna made thousand of followers, nobody is questioning only people like to create a story where the police said conversion was proved baseless. Please try to understand what is conversion and then pass your comments. Try to visit the place where missionaries are working and you yourself look for conversion on your thoughts and attitude after seeing their holy work.

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  • Arush, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Lavina, Please go after the Hare Rama Hare Krishna sect. They do not represent Hindus or Hinduism. When you point your fingers towards Hindus please make sure you are accusing the right folks.

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  • A N Seshadri, Madurai/Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Arush,

    If I apply your logic, why Sangh parivars baffons attacked main stream " ROMAN CATHOLIC " church who never involved in conversion.

    Born Again, New Life groups are NOT at all connected to Roman Catholic Church.....Educate yourself before acting and commenting....By the way I am from Aiyyar Community...still I know different sect's of Christianity

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  • Dev Sagar, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    MODI IS A PUPPET IN THE HANDS OF RSS AND THE SANGH PARIWAR. HE IS TOO SCARED TO OPEN HIS MOUTH. ONE TIME HE WAS HE WAS MAKING FUN OF MANMOHAN SINGH. WHAT ABOUT HIM NOW???

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  • Agee, Indian - UAE

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    These organization are making mockery of their own religion...ultimately they will bring only curse for themselves.. There is only one GOD.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015


    I will go one further.... there is no god.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Zeitgeist,
    Believing or not believing in God is the free choice of every individual.

    Christians who believe in God believe that it is God himself who has given Human beings the freedom to either accept him or not accept him. Such is the greatness of God, almighty, all powerful, all loving, all merciful.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Declan,

    In which bible did you read that in??? non believers are condemned to eternal torture in hell.

    Please dont say things that does say in your religion. In the middle ages you would have been sentenced to death for committing such heresy.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Zeitgeist,
    Dont worry you won't go to hell.
    Condemnation is for those living a life of sin without true repentance.
    I did not quote the Bible here. Understanding of the faith is as important as just reading out from scripture.
    I meant that given the very fact that God allows human beings who do not believe in him to live and exist like those who believe in him is proof (for believers) that it is happening with God's approval and according to his will.

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  • Wilfred Rego, Siddakatte / Oman

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    This Modi Government is responsible for creating violence against weak people who are neglected and downtrodden people. The Modi talking big big speeches during his foreign trips about india but what he supporting the violence , vandalism . Only talking no ache din , no development only destruction.

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  • kishore, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    dushman ke chaddi uda de hum India waale!

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sir, when you have time, please visit Anand Mahadevan(Business Editor of the Economic Times, also Anil Kant, (the recording artists) they have not changed their Hindu names but followers of Christ.

    You are lamenting about the poor Hindus converting to Christianity. I have witnessed in my younger days, how those people were treated worse than dogs. They can't get inside the house but had to eat on the yard. As a very young boy, I was greatly confused by this. Even my grand dad who had a big real estate, had dozens of such people working for him, and I saw that from my grand dad attitude too, but I played with their children. When those socially discarded human beings felt love from the missionaries, and wanted to follow their religious faith, what illogical question you are asking? The rich and powerful can follow their choice of religion, but the poor can't follow their choice of GOD. That will be forced conversion.

    Please, before you write any comment touching the conversion issue, make a visit with them, they are highly educated and socially high class people, they will explain to you about their conversion story.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    mr mathew,

    if you study vedas and puranas and also you will never see the term untouchables.this has been implanted by the british during thier 300 year rule to create divide in hindu society so that hindus are never united and therby they can divide and rule.

    they have also adulterated the vedas.

    some groups in hindu society which were on the upper curve of society those days took advantage of this adulteration, and followed this as it suited thier selfish interests and and also aided thier urge for control of resources.

    in manusmruti, division of labour is mentioned and not division of humans based on thier birth.dont confuse varna system with caste system as varna system(division of labour)was prevalent in european civilisation also.

    lord krishna was brought up in yadavas household which is told as so called backward class today and is known as yadunandan.

    thanks

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  • stan, dubai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    You are correct.... All done by British... Just tell you and your brother were culture is spoiled by British, than when you and your brothers will improve?????

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    mr mathew,

    every religion preaches love and compassion.i have many christion friends who are followers of lord ganesh,godess durga and sathya saibaba.

    the famous singer of kerala, yesudas is an ardent devotee of godess mookambika,kollur and every year he visits the temple and recently he celebrated his birth day in kollur temple.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Mr. sunil (Bangalore). When Sri. K.J. Yesudas was young, around 16 years old if my memory is correct,
    (I am five years younger than him) his father Augustine Joseph died. He was a singer but in those days, they didn't make much income. When the time of funeral came, the Church didn't allow him to be buried without paying the dues to the Church. Jesudas had to knock on many doors to get the money, and somebody gave their golden jewelry to take some loan to pay the church dues.

    The Church acted like a blade company. If JESUS came down that day, He might have whipped many people. It is true that the Church or other religious institutions must have financial support from the believers, but if the believers are not financially sound to pay their dues, and when they are trapped at the time of funeral, that is too too cruel, which is totally contrary to the teaching of JESUS CHRIST.

    I am not speaking for any denomination but the personal choice of everybody to follow their deity.

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    What is appreciable is BD do not take into physical violence. They just warn these christians to be in their limits.

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  • Indian, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Dear Shankar.... please improve your English understanding...

    "A group of Bajrang Dal activists Sunday attacked and vandalized the Christian bhawan (building) at a Bihar town, police said."

    This means not warning..... this is physical violence.....

    Keep targeting Church and Mosque ....

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Indian,
    Humbly accepting my substandard lexis, let me try to put my thinking in a different way.
    If you take up the wrong doings what the churches in Bihar do, the Bd guys will not come and hit you. They will just break something next to you and warn you. That is what i appreciated.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Shankar,
    Definition of violent behaviour is not restricted only to causing human physical injury, physical murder but it also includes physical destruction of goods or property .i.e. vandalism.

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  • Indian, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Again You need to Improve your understanding on Constitution.
    If Christian Missionaries and Muslims lure a hindu and convert him paying money , ( Like BD did it Assam , luring by ration card , later not providing) then its illegal.... You as wise citizen need to file a FIR....


    You are nobody to stop someone changing their faith on his own... Instead of vandalizing things.

    You can preach them about hinduism .... make their faith strong ... It will help BD to underrated little bit of Veda , upanishatth...

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  • Willie Menda, Bangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Violence by preachers of Non-Violence!?

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Shankar,

    When i defend democratic values against the terrorist sympathizers i believe people of your ilk are on my side but when hindu right wing org does such type of things you go to defend such acts. Basically both of them are two faces of same coin. What VHP, RSS and BD have adopted is nothing but neo fascist type of opposition to what they believe is good for the future of the country. But that`s exact opposite.

    What people need to realise is that no western democratic country will do business with a fascist state. So if the facist agenda of these groups succeeds there india will be an outcast in a global community similar in the lines in north korea.

    I suggest to the sympathizers of the fascist group to read a little history on what happened to the fascist regimes. 

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    zeitigist,

    one honest question how china is growing rapidly at astronomical pace and becoming so developed these days that it is in the verge of replacing usa as global economic and military giant in near future?

    can you explain their rise and acceptance by western powers unlike north korea?
    thanks.

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  • Indian, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    I think BD and RSS have gone three and vandalized religious building , hence they are growing rapidly....

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Zeitgeist, Mangalore,
    If you think you are a superman that everyone will follow what you say, then you are wrong.
    I dont agree with any ideas just coz its written by some person. Personally, your are immaterial to me. When i find your comments agreeable, then i will comment for it, when not, i will condemn.
    Cool.

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  • S.M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, Dubai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015


    Shanker
    be practical come out from RSS garadi live like human being at least!

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Nawaz,
    You come out of your Muslim madrasas first.

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  • Indian, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Lelo Acche Din...........

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  • Oliver, Udupi

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    The persecution of Christians are increased from the day the Modi govt. took charge !!

    Just remember the words of Gandhiji, "If you will kill Christians, They will grow like Weeds !!."

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  • Oliver, Udupi

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Manju, Mumbai.
    Christian missionaries are not only preaching the Gospel in India but they are preaching in the countries which you have said as well !!.

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  • Mukesh, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Then Bring Anti conversation Law.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Preaching and propagation of the faith is a right granted by the 'Constitution of India'.
    We do not need a 'Constitution of Chhadis'!

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    declan,

    yes you are right .anti conversion law is against human rights.but anti forcible conversion is also human rights.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    In a way every Christian individual is expected to be a missionary.
    It is a God given duty of every Christian to cloth the naked,feed those who are hungry and thirsty,visit the sick, the dying and those in prison and
    provide shelter to strangers in need.
    If doing this for the poor and needy can be termed as allurement then God help us all.

    In recent years Mother Teresa who spent her life in service for the 'poorest of the poor' is a model for all us.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    sunill,
    Christians in India as a community will be the first to criticize and condemn forcible conversion.
    We are not playing the numbers game here.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Sunill,

    What is forced conversion??? I have always asked the question. How can anyone be forced to practice certain religion.

    And regarding the stupid anti conversion bill, how do you determine what is forced conversion and what is not.

    This is one of the reasons why religion must be banned for the greater good of humanity.

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  • victor, mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Freedom of conversion....???

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  • stan, dubai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    What you are telling is correct but if by force Muslim or Christian were converted than you will change your law as Gar wapsi and it is not conversion. If some one willingly want to change his religion it should be ok but if someone want to change is religion willingly from Hinduism than it is a crime as per your conversion law. If Muslims act against anybody when they were heart than you will call it terrorism and if Hindu attacks other religion than for you it is correct action?????

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    This is nothing but RELIGIOUS TERRORISM in the name of 'Ghar Wapsi' by the Parivar groups !

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    BD, you all think that you can attack any defenseless people at your discretion there will be an end for everything. So, keep on attacking until satisfied.

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  • Vincy, Bangkok

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Modi fever is going down day by day.
    I think more will become christians if BD continue these attacks and one day Hindu will be minority in Bihar.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    anti forcible conversion law like the one in gujrath needs to be implemented.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    vincy,
    as far as development of nation is concerned by setting up of industries and therby generating jobs,in 2016 bjp will get rajyasabha majority along with thier own president along with already possessed loksabha majority.then they can pass insurance bill and goods and transaction bill

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  • VINCY, Bangkok

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    By the time India will be chaos.Modi can speak only in USA and Australia.Why he is not able to speak in the Parliament?
    This RS majority with own president will be a suicide for BJP.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    It is necessary that Hindus themselves become more aware of the danger their culture and unique civilization is facing at the hands of missionaries sponsored by foreign money.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Manju,
    Why dont you follow Sakshi Maharaj's advice of 4 children ?

    Is Christian population in India of around 2 to 3 %, a threat to Hindus ???

    REALLY ???

    However, I believe that if Christians are constantly attacked and persecuted by right wing extremist groups it will only help the Christian population to grow. History has shown that Christianity has prospered where there has been persecution against Christians.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Declan,

    You stopped at half only the first 500 years of christianity. And let me continue were you left off. christianity went on to persecute rest of the world for rest of their history. Actually they only stopped 200 years ago.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    I am fully aware of the shameful violent history surrounding Christian groups from some nations.

    We as a community need to acknowledge and admit our wrongs if we wish to improve.

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  • Anthony Lobo, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    If BD/VHP does these kind of acts, next election Rahul and Sonia can stay home and win election. BJP lovers pls tell the extremist outfits to give education, shelter and clothes to those Maha dalits instead of spending on Ghar Wapsi. Religion is only to preach not to practice including BD/VHP. I do not think BD/VHP knows anything about Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Ram, Krishna who got avatar to kill the Rakhsas but to kill BD/VHP Rakshas even Modi Avatar is not sufficient.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Christians are converting only poor Hindus by inducement in India but they don't have daring to do the same in Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Somali. Hinduism is not organized like Abrahamic religion so they take the advantage of it.

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  • Jude , belman

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Dear can you ask same question s with yoga guru ramdev, BD, RSS, president,shiv sena.you only says you people not organized.so problem is in your house. That's why people wanna move from there is it.missionaries working all over the world even muslim countries.giving there peace and service.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    sanaathan dharm is the religion created by supreme power by himself dawning upon earth.it is the first religion on earth.even after it existed for several thousands of years,there was no religion other than this religion.

    hinduism has not only survived but flourished even under the brutal dictatorial and violent regimes of mughal and british empire.

    even british tried to convert hindus and failed miserably.
    hinduism was there when the human civilisation started and will be on earth like it was used to be and like it is now even untill the end of human race on earth.
    thanks

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    sunill,
    I appreciate and respect the teaching of your faith with regard to the beginning and end of human creation. However, note that the teachings of some other faiths are different with regard to the beginning and end of human creation.
    Also know this that almost every individual believes that his own faith is the 'right one'.

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  • sunill, bengaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    declan,

    i respect all the faiths in this world and follow my religion .i respect jesus christ as what he preached to mankind about love and compassion was great.

    i have never in my life disregarded other religions as i believe religion is just a medium to attain god.

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    VHP RSS HIDING WITH SHAME.

    Lucknow: Jan 11: After the Sangh Parivar’s ‘Ghar Wapsi’ flop show, Hindu communities in Uttar Pradesh, especially from lower castes, are now threatening the communal forces and authorities that they would convert en masse into Islam if their demands were not fulfilled.

    KYA SE KYA HOGAYA BEWAFA TERE WAPSI MEIN

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  • Ram Shetty, Mangalore/Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Read what Modi as said at 7th Vibrant Gujarat submmit, World should be a better place to live..."All of us want planet earth to become a better place to live," Prime Minister Narendra Modi said.. I am sure the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, US Secretary of State John Kerry and many more must be laughing when they must heard the news of terrorist attack on Christian Bhawan by Bajrang Dal terror group of India. Modi your addressing was good but try to fix our own problems then you talk about the planet, when we cannot take care of our own terror groups how can you expect others to be good.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Mr. Shetty: It seems like Mr. Modi is concerned with the world not with the domestic problems of India where the minorities are under attack. He is keeping his mouth shut.

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  • JM, Mangalore

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Has any observed that the attacks are happening only in non-bjp run states. This proves that bjp is desperately trying to divide the people based on religion. They accuse british for adopting divide and rule policy, what about them now?.

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  • santoshprabhu, india

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Look at what happened in Australia and paris. if you don't like them why you take refuge there? why cant you take refuge in Saudi or iran or Syria or afgan or pak. why other religion dominated countires and then backstab

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  • Abdul Hamid, Mangalore/Abu Dhabi

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    QUOTE: jovin , udupi, Saturday, January 10, 2015
    Right said Mr Albert but we cannot expect any information from these people.All the christians and hindus should get together on this issue and must keep a eye on their surrounding as u told whoever it may be Doctors to engineers, players to students and keep informing police . This is for the sake of our future generation.

    UNQUOTE: HINDUS ALREADY KEPT THEIR EYES!

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    TERRORISTS ARE BACK IN BUSINESS

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  • santoshprabhu, india

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    all of the people protesting ghar wapsi what do you say about this conversion? why double standard?

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Stop conversions by allurement..start respecting all religions..there wont be any violence..

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  • Rajesh Gonsalves, Mangalore / Dubai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Im willing to allure you, are you willing to convert? Whats your price tag?

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  • Abdul Rafiq, Uchila / Dubai

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    India is going to become one more Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq etc under Modi ruling. So called patriotic party BJP agenda is destroy India, destroy minorities in India. "KACHE DIN AAGAYE" hain.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Can these Christian missionaries converts the poor Muslims in Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Somalia ?.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Manju,
    Ask the same question to Sri Ravi Shankar, Mata Amritamayi Devi, Murari Bapu, Ramdev and many more if they will go to preach in those countries you named?
    I am not saying what these preachers are doing any wrong. There is freedom for preaching and right to practice what they choose. It is for you and many more who wrote similar comment like you to ponder over, because you are one sided!

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  • Af,, mangaluru

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    @ Manju
    how about your hare rama hare krishna group running in various countries of the world? are you been there anytime?

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    #BJPKeGunde....shame on these sanghi terrorists.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    There is a saying that: "you are, what you capable of doing"
    It is very much suitable to Bajrang Dal.
    As an organization, highly popular and notorious for spreading rumors and attacks on soft targets like Christian Minorities.

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  • moshu, Mangalore

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    International pressure need of the hour to ban all terrorists groups associated with sangh pariwar.

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Modi says that India has now become land of hope from land of despair.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Clifford,
    Nobody cares what a proven liar says.

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  • Raj, Hosmar

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    PM saab kuch naya educational institute kholo yar inlog k liye Ya Gujarat me factory me kaam dilwado...Hadd hogai publicity ka

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  • Master, mangalore

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Where are preachers of humanity....

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    Is it not a terrorist act of BD?What is luring?BD /RSS openly set a price tag for Ghar Wapsi (Muslims 5 lakh,Christian 2 Lakhs and others SHENDI!!)

    Ghar wapsi reportedly made head lines to enact a law for anti conversion because BD feared of mass exodus lower caste Hindus Buddhist and other religions.Year 2015 in Bihar total 5 lakh Daliths will be GHAR WAPSI for Buddhi religion.Unless untouchable eradicated,the "ghar chodsi" will remain forever.

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  • nora, dubai

    Sun, Jan 11 2015

    When Muslim terrorist attacked in France than all the people condemn their act. Who will condemn these Indian terrorist????

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  • ANH, Udupi

    Mon, Jan 12 2015

    Ismail saab, it's not hindu extremist terrorist. if it was muslim then only it will be islam extremist...

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