Mangalore: ‘Church Attack Signifies Struggle between Christianity and Brahminism’


Mangalore: ‘Church Attack Signifies Struggle between Christianity and Brahminism’

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Mangalore, Oct 20: The recent attacks on churches in many parts of India are not due to conversion; it is a struggle between Christianity and the Brahminism as they are losing grip over Dalits, said Fr Francis Serrao, rector of St Aloysius institutions, on Sunday October 19.

Speaking at Cordel church about human rights and the attacks on Christians, he said that Christian ideology and Brahmin ideology can never meet as Christianity propagates love and Brahminism propagates hate.

The upper caste, which is a minority in India, has exploited the Dalits for thousands of years by implementing the ‘varna’ system. But the Christian community has been working for their upliftment. Therefore, Brahmins are losing control on Dalits who constitute about 65 percent of the nation’s population. Therefore, Brahmins are provoking others to attack Christianity, said Fr Serrao.

‘Nobody has given us land to build churches, schools, or hospitals. We are born and bought up in this land itself. Even our ancestors are not foreigners. Therefore, no one can brand us foreigners,’ he cautioned. Stephen Quadros, secretary, diocesan parish council, said that one can see the fight between Dalits and Brahmins in the Mahabharata itself.

In the Govardhangiri war, Sri Krishna, who represents the Yadav community, defeated Indra, who represents the priestly class. The priestly class is meager in numbers, but is trying to control the whole of India. One can see that the Buddhist religion went abroad because of the atrocities of the Brahmins. Jains are living as the subordinates of Hindus and Muslims are branded as terrorists. Nowadays, the priestly class is provoking others to attack Christianity, he opined.

Well-known social activist, Dr Srinivas Kakkillaya, said that the attack on Christianity was not by the Hindus, but by a minority group which is trying to control the entire nation. Hindus as well as Christians should join together to defeat these terrorist forces, he added.

M P Noronha, president, Catholic Lawyers’ Guild said that all should raise their voice when human rights are violated around them. Fr Valerian Pinto, parish priest, Cordel church, presided over the function. Fr Onil D’Souza, Sushil Noronha, Fr Francis Almeida, Lancy D’Cunha, Fr Vijay Victor Lobo, Raymond D’Cunha, and Roy Castelino, were present on the dais.

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  • Chandra, Abu Dhabi

    Thu, Oct 23 2008

    Christian religion leaders should have broad mind and should not create / spread hatredness. See the comments made by them. Being in spiritual leader position, they should depict love as Jesus did and being remembered always.

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  • Ronald Mathias, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    I request The Chief Minister and the Home Minister of Karnataka and Orissa states to read this article. You will get good knowledge about REAL matters.

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  • eddie, udupi

    Wed, Oct 22 2008

    Please let us not point our finger at one community. what Fr. serrao said is not appreciated. Let Fr.serrao talk only about church attacks and solutions for peace and harmoney.

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Wed, Oct 22 2008

    Dear Mr. Shenoy. I pray every Indian has this graceful quality of yours which is expressed by you. Jai Hind.

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  • clarence miranda, mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Shenoy, Mangalore You are perfectly right. We all should follow your example.

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  • Noel Frank, Mangalore/KSA

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Luke, Mangalore, Every body understands that Brahminism and Brahmin are two different things, Fr Serrao is not any Tom-Dick or Harry who can say anything he wants and get away with it. He is a catholic priest and rector of a great instituion. His words carry a lot of weight as a representative of the christian community as well. He should never have spoken against any religion specially at this time when communal tensions are high. I am also a Aloysian and as mentioned by Thilak Shetty, mangalore, dubai I too have seen many Bhats, Rao’s in St. Aloysius faculty. But its hard to find dalits either in faculty or list of alumni.

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  • Luke, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Brahminism and Brahmin are two different things. He is speaking about Brahminisn, which we equate to castism. He is not speaking of Brahmins as a people or community. I know Frankie personally and I know he is not speaking of Brahmins, I can vouch for that.

    Please do not get offended in that manner. Lot of us Christians believe that this systematic violence from Sangh Parivar that has been propagating against us is done out of hatred. We are hated because Christianity of the 21st century offers a egalitarian community that threatens the domination of those who want to sit higher up in the caste pyramid. We believe that this argument about Forced conversion is just an alibi, the real reasons lie somewhere else.

    We also believe that these misguided hands of lumpen groups like BJD that actually pelt the stones are just hired hands. The minds that scheme, hire and instigate them to indulge in this violence are the real culprits and they never show their true face to us. Its good to have a genuine debate rather than to indulge in hatred and converse in platitudes.

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  • Noel Frank, Mangalore/KSA

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Fr Francis Serrao, rector of St Aloysius institutions, does not know what he is talking about. He has not only talked in the language of Byrapppa accusing Brahminsm without any basis and also destroyed the public image of christians.

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  • Shenoy, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    I am proud to say that I am Hindu. A true Hindu is secular by nature. This religion is oldest religion in the world. So Don't underestimate the greatness of the religion.Having said so I have great respect on other religions as well. I don't have any right to degrade other religion. So let us respect each other and live like Brothers and sisters.

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  • krishna , mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    i agree with mr swaminathan what he says is correct dont give false comments

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  • Mohammed, Mangalore/Saudi Arabia

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Dear A.K.Rao, Mangalore/Chicago, offcorse its very sad that an aid worker in Afghanistan (British citizen) was shot dead because she was preaching to some people!! but sweet heart what about your own tollerent Hindu (Bajarangis) India burned 2 Kids and pastor alive to death...(Graham, Philip and Timothy)http://www.wogim.org/stains.htm

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  • Thilak Shetty, mangalore, dubai

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    We never expected such statement from a head of educational institutions. It sounds like a politicians statement. Being a ex aloysian I have seen many Bhats, Rao’s in St. Aloysius faculty. But it hard to find dalits either in faculty or list of alumni.

    If you are providing education to dalits then why they are not appearing in faculty or list of alumni? Remember there are many Brahmins like UR Ananth Moorthy , Girish Karnad in fore front of agitation against fanatic Hindu groups. So it’s totally unfair to brand all Brahmins as root cause for recent happenings. Even in time of tension general Hindus didn’t throw a single stone to Christian houses or business establishments. So it’s time to patch up our differences, don’t try to spread hatred.

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  • Rolphy Almeida, Udupi/Bangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Madhava Bhat Puttur/USA, You are right “nobody supports violence”. Lord Jesus thought us non violence, he taught us to forgive all those who hurt you and he also taught us to love our enemies. Let us try to understand that no educated person will ever support violence.

    Therefore let us not use provocative language, rather try and educate every uneducated Indian by whatever little we can contribute. We, all educated Indians know that there is only one God. If anyone hurts the other faith must remember he is hurting his own God and the only God will never forgive him.

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  • Naveen Bhat, mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Sad..but true,our conty is filled with narrow minded people .

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  • Vishenth Prabhu, Valencia

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    HERE WE GO AGAIN ! Why cant our priests think before they speak. Are we trying to forgive and forget or causing a flare up again !! Thank you Fr. Serrao for being so brilliant in your research on this. Now you can go and sit in your room and watch the outside fun from your window.

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  • Siva, usa

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Ney reverend Fr. In simple words, the current struggle is between Christian attitude of 'no other religion' can take you to God vs. more tolerant Hindu attitude of all paths lead to same God. Here the Christians are showing great Camaraderie with Muslims.

    But the world over same struggle is happening between Christians and Muslims to show upmanship of course each one is doing it with permission or 'order' from God!! Until we recognize this, there is no solution to these struggles and cannot be pushed under the carpet of 'Secularism' or 'Brahminism' - Sorry Fr. Cannot agree with you on this. I may be a loner but that does not make me wrong!!

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  • A.K.Rao, Mangalore/Chicago

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    We should condemn all bad behavior. What BD did was wrong. However, I am afraid, Fr Serrao is going in the wrong direction by attacking a single community. Let's all remember that Hindu India is very tolerant to other religions.

    Yesterday, an aid worker in Afghanistan (British citizen) was shot dead because she was preaching to some people!! Can you believe? India will never be like those radical societies. So, it's importrant that great personalities like Fr Serrao doesn't engage in 'divide and rule' tactics.

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  • prince, Udupi

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Respected Rev fr. Please stop commenting still more.........It is just getting calm. At this moment it is not advisable to comment. Please stop all the Blame Game, Enough is Enough. I feel whatever said it may sow disharmony seed again in the society.

    As result once again there will be Protest by the affected people. Please stop for Good Sake ..........STill you want to comment....comment on this...Moreover discrimination age-old culture of Christians of Brits. Castism never the less in Indian Christians. It exists within Catholics itself. Rev Fr. Answer all these querries:

    1.Show me any Roman catholic people getting arranged marry to Daliths ( I don't want to call them  as....). If not atleast to a converted dalith. Are you dared??? any of you dear friends who commented? 2. I have seen people still call them in a neglected word ____________ 3. People of Roman catholics did ever they eat in so called dalith's house or they developed any special relationship with them?? 4. Why converted catholics still fight for reservation, what is the need for that? Still outcasted dalith in catholics 5. Racism started from from catholics and still in catholics!! 6. Upper, lower and richer class more dangerous everyhere! Is there any exception in Catholics say that they don't do?? 7. Discrimination for colour & class irrespective of cast between the people. Separate churches for converted and so called pure Christians...Is not social obligation???

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  • Rony, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Hi Rajesh, I am surprised that you did not say that british invented caste system. How can you say that british used divide and rule when in reality divide and rule was already going on in the society. When the status quo is challlenged, the challenger becomes the target.

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  • ronald , barkur

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    This a very sensitive subject and one should take care not to make comments that might contribute to the resurgence of fascism. We already have enough problems in our Community. Let me start by stating that we are first and foremost human beings, and are brothers and sisters.

    If we believe that God exists and has created everything in this World, and are diligently seeking Him with all sincerity of heart mind and soul, then He will look favourably on our Souls. That is to say that the Soul of a Good Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jain, Buddhist……, and so forth, must be eligible for SALVATION.

    Further, if we diligently seek God, we will automatically believe in the Fraternity of all of Mankind meaning , violence against a fellow human being cannot arise even by way of thought, let alone through word or deed.

    An excellent example of such an individual is Mahatma GANDHI. Could any person who calls himself a good Hindu, Muslim, Christian (or any other religion) think of eliminating him ? Most certainly NOT. Again, when people live a life in the footsteps of the Mahatma, would any good non-Hindu brother or sister care that he (the Mahatma) is a Hindu by profession of Faith ?

    The answer is NO. Instead, a Christian would be proud to call him a Christian, a Muslim would be proud to treat him as if he is a Muslim, and so on……So, it is my humble opinion that in the eyes of a good human being, religious affiliation of a fellow human being ought not to be important !

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  • Madhava Bhat, Puttur/USA

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Nobody supports violence. Brahmins always adored knowledge, good values and 'ahimsa'. I feel sorry for Christian community who were at the receiving end during riots. Having said that, I personally find Fr Serrao's comments disturbing. No religion is perfect.

    Here in USA, Christian groups practiced slavery for centuries. It doesn't mean Christians are all bad. I really wish respectable religious leaders like Fr Serrao was ore sensitive to other communities.

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  • Lancelot N. Tauro, Manglore - Doha qatar

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    According to Holy book Bhagwatgita, Brahaman means those who worship GOD five times a day, a true Brhamana. Not just wearing janniwaara and perform pooja once in a while and look at others non brahmin or unclean.

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  • WILLIE, USA

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Somewhere down my memory lane I remember one of our teachers who taught me Hindi, he himself a Brahmin spoke of the four segments of Hinduism in the following way. But let me I am not a master in the subject, yet I believe what he explained.

    Hinduism is not a religion but it is a way of life come down to present day a lot of fundamentals transmitted through oral teachings, writings and unspoken or undocumented traditions. Be that as it may. Another interesting factor I remember is that Brahma being the creator, he created the Brahmins out of his head (no doubt they are intellectuals) he created the Kshatriyas out of his arms(that is why they are fighters good at the use of bow and arrow and other tools fit for the war and defense)

    While the Brahmins and Kshatriyas were occupied in their intellectual and defense activities respectively, there needs to be some one to take care of the things that matter the stomach and so Brahma created Vaisha out of his stomach who took care of the commerce of the society And then certainly there are several other social needs and jobs to be done which none of the above three categories could do or would not want to do so the belief is that Brahma created Shudra from his legs or thighs who did all kinds and types of work.

    With this I understand that Hinduism is a concept developed and accepted by the existent society as a practical solution of the social needs. Eventually seeing the benefits and advantage, the higher categories began to exploit those who are said to be created from the thighs of Brahma and therefore this segment of social existence has no respect, no personality, no dignity they are not human they have no human rights as they are supposed to carry the burden of the rest of the "body".

    As of today, if ever any of these segments should cease to exist Hinduism is not Hinduism. Therefore it is necessary according to the adherents of Hinduism especially that of the Brahmins to fight tooth and nail to preserve this social structure. In itself this is a beautiful structure purely on social requirements. But denying the basic human rights and privileges, equality and justice, fraternity and respect to those who do the menial jobs or let us say the dirty jobs is unjust by any reckoning.

    This basic structure should be understood purely based on the social need. No work is dirty, it is the mind that is dirty by which we judge others. If Hinduism which is a socio-politico-religious way of life where one cannot be distinguished from the other componet should hate Christianity there is definitely a Brahminical brain behind it. Christianity tries to reach out to the outcaste, not only promise but in fact restore the downtrodden to the true human dignity which they deserve as human beings.

    This is truly seeing the image of God in the other who is like me.

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  • Ronald, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    If you read correctly, he never said that it is the fight between christians and brahmins. He said brahminism and not brahmins. May be not all the brahmins suscribe to brahiminism in todays world. One who knows what braminisn is all about, knows too well that it stands for herarchical caste system. By that it seeks to extend dominanace. The enemy of brahminism is enlightening people on what it stands for.

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  • Madhav Bandarkar, Goa now in Qatar

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Brahmins means GSB, same thing they are doing in peaceful GOA. We are in mass pray these people to come out from their crooked nature.

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  • Ajay, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Frankie, thanks for telling it as it is. Folks remember its not Brahmin, but Brahminism that is re branded has Hindutva that Frankie is blaming. There is a huge difference between the two. A Brahmin means a person who seeks the truth. That is a absolute noble task. Some of the greatest social reformers of the world have been Brahmins. These noble Brahmins in fact worked to abolish Brahminisn. But Brahminism is very different, it means the pyramid caste system and the social religious sanction for the same.

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  • rajesh shetty, MANGALORE / K SA

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Divide and Rule ! this was British policy and it appears that the Rector is sticking to that old POLICY,How many of you read and understood the Hinduism?? Please do not compare the Brahmans with Catholics. If you all want to comment please comment on the particular groups of people who have done that evil and not blame the entire community for it and for a person who says only says that he spreads peace or whatever , this kind of statement is really unfair and not just ...thats what I feel .

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Please advise if there is no reservation of Dalits. what is the motivation factor for them to get education.

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  • OLIVER, CANADA

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    M.bhat,Mumbai I agree , Fr. Serrao may not be 100% right blaming brahmin community, brahmins have supressed others because they are making a living out of it . I also strongly disagree with you saying christians are frustrated to the extent that they cannot thrive & live without creating controversies , what you forgot to say is brahmins eliminate problems (recent supriya issue).

    At the end you have said-"If you look at the world, you may know who is fighting whom, but you still call christians peace loving community".- the same world has given you computer , internet and all modern ameneties

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  • Abdul Khader Kukkaje, mangalore\U.A.E.

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Frs Comments is Exactly Perfect because The Brahmins are the minorities in india. but they are the powerful, by their political brain. Just study the census of india out of morethen100crores populations of inda they are hardly 5percent only.eventhough they are enjoying morethen 75 percent of higher govt jobs as well as elected represents. rest of 70 percent of hindus which also included the daliths and other backward cammunities are devided the remaining 25percent of govt jobs and other political represents.

    So actually the brahmins exploiting the daliths and backward cammunities of hindus, but the daliths and backward communities of Hindus are still not realised the fact. why, because brahmins always creating the camunal riots by them only with publishing of the chrithans and muslims are enemy to the hindus. by this big advertisements the people( who exploited by the brahmins) not understanding the truth that they are realy loosing the chances of getting higher educations and jobs.bcz the minority of brahmins getting all this chances by the name of hindu.

    Mr M Bhat also note this point that the brahmins are creating the problem for their selfishness. see, the brahmins never involved any communal riots,because they know themselves or their children should not harm and they should study  medicince or engineering.(so that for this work brahmins recruited the backward communities of hindus and daliths) But behind this riots the brahmins brain is working and the financial support also giving by them only to save their power permanently so this only brahmins political milage and power.

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  • Ramesh Upadhya, Managalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    So what is the difference between Fr Francis Serrao, rector of St Aloysius institutions and Mahendra Kumar of BD. Both are out to destabilize the peace and transquility and hurling abuses at community..come on rector please grow up..

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore/India

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    The ideology of Brahmanism is danger to society not the Brahmins. Unfortunately both go hand in hand because the Brahmins are higher caste and they want to rule the society even though they are small number. The Dalits are oppressed class and education to Dalit is like loosing hold on Dalits by the higher caste.

    When Dalit children and Brahmin children sit in the same class, can the Brahmin tolerate this? This is one of main issue the power control lobby who is upper caste turmoil the society and diverts the minds of people. Unless you work with the Dalits nobody will understand this concept. Who is stirring the community? It is always the priests irrespective of their religion. If the community is educated they give damn to the priests like in Europe.

    Otherwise we fools follow them and they make us to dance. This is irrespective religion and it exist every religion, sad but true. We are the looser and the so called priests unnecessarily get importance. Let us keep all these religious priests aside and living in society let’s live in harmony and peace. Jai Hind

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  • clarence miranda, mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    This analysis by Fr. Serrao may be right. But to say the attacks on churches signifies struggle between... is quite frivolous. Attacks on churches and christians by the miscreants, well supported by the state can never be called as any sort of struggle between Chrianity and Bhraminism. Instead of making these sort of statements, we should gather and seek justice and the right to exercize our constitutional rights.

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  • murali, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    NOw, Chiristian are following the BRITISH policy " Divide & Rule " by invoking caste system Infact 100% Caste system is Also followed in Christian , there is no marriage between Dalit Chistian and Brahmian Chirstian like Pais, shenoy,etc,,,,

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  • jeevan shetty, mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Dear christian friends congratulations atleast you could speak out against oppressive caste system and exploitation of the voiceless I challenge all my brahmin friends to come out and start a leprosy hospital or4 atleat appoint a shudra to one of the 8 udupi mutts

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  • Desmond, Mangalore/Bahrain

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Inflammatory statement from a very responsible position. Nothing less than Bhairappa's article. The most gentle and pleasing people dont deserve such comments.The Brahmins which Fr. is talking about do not exist in Post independence era

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  • Maxim A D'Souza, Kavoor, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    I do not fully agree with Fr Serrao's comments. Yes it's true that Brahmin priestly class was behind certain provocations but it's not right to blame the entire Brahmin community. Some of the greatest thinkers, reformers of our nation were Brahmins. Why our Mahatma was born Brahmin. Many of my friends are Brahmins and they are no less humane, loving than others. I have imbibed many possitive qualities from them. It is brahminism which we have to fight against, not Brahmins. Because this brahminism in all its ugliness exists in christianity too specially in our district. Priests are not excempt. The attacks are by a minority facists groups.

    Others can be termed as mute spectators or being cowed down. Bad elements are there in all sections of society but when true leadership doesn't evolve the whole society is hijacked by these elements. It's time for the true sane voices of society like Dr Kakkillaya to take the centre stage. Clergy can guide the people in the right path but the true leadership should emerge from among the masses. Let there be such a development in christian community.

    After all Hindus, Muslims and Christians have lived together in harmony for ages and will continue to do so. Off course some one will try to inject poison but let's not fall for that.

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  • Dr Gerald Pinto, Kallianpur

    Tue, Oct 21 2008

    Sampath rightly says Brahmins are like Jews. Infact there are evidences that Brahmins are Aryans who are loast tribe of Israel . e Jews. They resemble in evry repect. They should to go to their motherland Israel. One tribe from north east has already returned. Gerald Pinto

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  • M.Bhat, Mumbai

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Some people are so frustrated to the extent that they cannot thrive & live without creating controversies and remaining in news. Till now these so called educated elements were blaming BD/VHP/RSS/ Governemnt for attack on the churches and christians, but intentionally ignoring the cause for the same.

     Now they are blaming Bhramins for their plight. Kinldy note bhraimns do not indulge in cheap tricks like these and we donot assume anyone to be our enemy as we are peace loving people. We have condemned the attacks on church and lathi charge on nuns and ladies. People with out knowing anything about Hinduism have started commenting about others religion.

    I donot agree to what serrao said - Christianity propagates love and Brahminism propagates hate. If you look at the world, you may know who is fighting whom, but you still call christians peace loving community. We have not stopped anyone from converting into any faith nor propagated hatred and illwill against anyone. Most of the Bramins have prospered in all walk of life due to hard work.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves , Bannur Puttur/Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Dear jagdish Narayan, UAE, Bajpe, Can’t you convince to contain blame game and hatredness by the Fanatic organizations of BJP. Tell them to stop it immediately

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  • mana shetty, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Just trying to mislead the people. 

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  • Padmanabha Shenoy, Udupi /Dammam Saudi Arabia

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Thanks Daijiworld for the good article and also publishing the comments on unbiased basis. As Fr Francis Serrao, rector of St Aloysius institutions, commented that it is struggle between brahmins and christians I dont see any truth in this. The attackers of church are not brahmins in the first place. secondly he says brahmins are propogating hate which is absolutely wrong. a minority of so called hindu's who does'nt know the ideology of hinduism has done this attacks and as a rector of St. Alloysius institutions he is not talking wisely.

    Christianity teaches to forgive people similary Hinduism dont teach hate....it says to love....each other...So do not brand the entire community depends on a small part of people's mistake. most of my friends are christians and they all disagree with this comment of Fr. Francis Serrao.

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  • Parvez, Mlore/Muscat

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    There is no doubt about this article. this is very much True!

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  • Nadeem , Kankanady,Kuwait

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Bravo! Fr.Serrao, at last you have come out to convince truth to the people. Good luck for your future programmes in spreading true colors of Brahmanism.

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  • Swaminath, Mannaglore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    How many of you read and understood the Hinduism?? Please do not compare the Brahmans with Catholics. If you all want to comment please comment and answer the queries and the thoughts raised by S.L.Bhyrappa in his article in Vijaya Karnataka daily dated 16-10-2008 and defend your case with facts and figures and evidences.

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  • sheela shetty, Mangalore, UAE

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    During Past few days lot of things were happened in Mangalore and all over India. It is indeed so sad. All communities were affected badly. So we know the pain. Let me askl you what we gain. Did we?. Now things are becoming much stable. People started forgetting whatever happend, They are back to normal. Moreover recently Our Christian brothers & sisters are joined celebrating Dassera, which was a great sign for their Amity.

    How all of sudden respected People like Fr.....is indulging himself in this Blame Game. He is branding whole community. So Sad. I request we should refrain such attitude towards any individual or whole. Think once more.................

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  • Sampath,

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    There are Poor as well as Rich Brahmins. But they are Brilliant and Intelligent. This no one can steal from them. Of course they are ridiculed and denied any of the rights (Like Jobs and Higher Education) These are denied from them only by politicians to get votes from Dalits, Christians and Muslims.

    Let me tell you. Jews were chased by every one. What is their position now. They are the Intelligent ones in the World. They are able to Cultivate Apple in a Desert. Same way the more you crush Brahmins they will also grow. Many Brahmins are abroad and they are rich and bring laurells to our country.

    Deny them one they will choose the other and reservations and look every one with same view try to make a living.If you deny them higher education in India they will get the same in US and grow well. It is high time that Government stops these

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  • Lancelot N. Tauro, Manglore - Doha qatar

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    It's 100% true, Majority Hindus agree with these statement, even if you do good welfare of the society, they never be happy and always utter the word Kassale Varshiq Maraya? Everything is Varshiq to them.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves , Bannur Puttur/Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Thanks to Daijiworld. The message is crystal clear in the article. The Fanatic Hindu groups are trying to Thalibanize India. We Christians as a whole have good relations with our Hindu brothers who are good indeed. We have assisted them in many ways and they have also joined us in helping hand. This GOOD RELATIONS with Hindus is annoyed to terrorist groups and sowing seeds of heartedness’.

    But who will convince to those Fanatic groups? When evil is with them they just act like evils destabilizing country and peace lovers. I suggest the upper caste people to help poor people to live a dignified life rather than blaming, terrorizing and proselytizing.

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  • jagdish Narayan, UAE, Bajpe

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Please stop all the Blame Game, Enough is Enough. I feel whatever said it may sow disharmony seed again in the society. As result once again there will be Protest by the affected people. Please stop for Good Sake

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  • Ramesh Baliga, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Sad that a whole community is getting branded...I am a proud hindu and i feel majority of us have never thought of voilence or hurting anyones sentiments. I have lot of christain and muslim friends whom i still think and continue to do so as my very close friends and family memebers. As a hindu many a times i was hurt by peoples comments here..Bad elements are there in every communities. then why brand the whole lot?

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  • Krishna, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Divide and Rule ! this was British policy and it appears that the Rector is sticking to that old worn out trick. Now it appears that cat is out of the bag. All these days these people were accusing the New Life Mission for the problem ! Now slowly the real colour is being shed.

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  • YOUSUF K, BANGALORE

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    YOU ARE PERFECTLY RIGHT..GOOD ANALYSIS..PEOPLE OF OBC,(SHUDRAS) MINORITY,AND DALIT SHOULD THINK.

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  • Stanley Noronha, Udupi/Kuwait

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Well done Cordel Church, thanks to all Cordel parishners and others for attending in large numbers. Yes meetings like this will give clear picture to other communities that christians are peace loving people.

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  • Stan Rodrigues , Farla/Italy

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    These sorts of seminars and workshops surely will help many Christian brethren especially as regards human rights. For years we Christians demonstrated silently and peacefully against discrimination and god fatherly attitude shown towards us. Now we know that our very existence in India is under attack. So as Indians we are equals like any other and we have the right to practice our religion like any other without any fear.

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  • Sr.Franca Augustine, Kathmandu,Nepal

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    I am happy that the catholic community so much misunderstood and so unjustly treated by the anti christian forces is beginning to speak out. Too long have we suffered in silence, too many lives have been lost. Thanks to those who have been taking lead these days to voice the anguish and opinion of so many of us..

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  • George Borromeo, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Good coverage. to add on this topic I think Brahmins are practising "karma system" also. hence they do not help or support their poor bretheren as they are not going to alter some bodies karma.if I am wrong any one can correct me.

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  • Patrick D'Souza, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Perfect analysis. I appeal to my fellow Indians, I repeat "Indians", to throw out fundamentalism in any form or those who are even remotely connected with it through the ballot. They should be treated as social outcastes.

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  • Dr Rego, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    I would differ from Fr Francis Serrao. The Church attacks do not signify fight between Christianity and brahminism AS COMMUNITIES. It only signifies the tension between two value systems. As such, Christians cannot be struggling against any one community. Christianity is the movement to root out evil, and establish on earth the reign of justice and love. These things, Fr Serrao has said clearly, but has not specified that Christianity is not against brahminism.

    If he means, 'brahminism' as an ideology, then fine I agree with him. But definitely, not the community. Some are good fellows. It is the oppressive value system which has been ingrained and perpetuated - examples of which have been given Fr Serrao, which are not correct, not appreciated.

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  • Antony T. D' Souza, Karkala, Doha-Qatar

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Corderl church has set a very good example presenting messages on causes of the communal conflicts and human rights abuses. Such Meetings or Presentations should be carried out on every Sunday’s per week per church basis in Mangalore and other nearby Dioceses. After the Meet if required procession should be carried out led by the Parish Priests, Nuns, Parish Intellectuals, Lawyers and Elders etc.,. This will help the continuity of the struggle and to set the spirit burning/alight which is need of the hour.

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  • Maxim, Mangalore/Dubai

    Mon, Oct 20 2008

    Very well said Fr.Serrao. Upper caste Hindus now fear because christians are educating dalits, schedule tribes and other lower caste people so that they too live with respect and as human being. Look at history pages how Brahmins systematicaly eradicated Budhisim from India! for fear of losing grip on lower caste people. Since Indian constitution has given more rights to Dalits/Tribes than Brahmins, in around 50 years time Brahmins definitely disapear from India due to the curse of dalits/tribes.

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