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Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:15:54 AM (IST)  

Catholic Church should not eye riches, says Pope

Wednesday, Jun 12 (IANS) : Poverty is the Church's distinguishing feature and "saves us from becoming organisers and entrepreneurs," Francis said.

The Catholic Church should not seek to accumulate wealth, as this makes the church "lifeless", Pope Francis has said.

"If we want a rich Church, then the Church ages, it has no life," Francis said during a mass at the Vatican hotel.

St. Peter did not have a bank account, Francis said.

"And when he (Peter) had to pay his taxes, God sent him to fish in the sea and found money inside the fish with which to pay," the pontiff said.

The Catholic Church is not a charity, the Pope said, but "is something else, something more important and it is born of gratuitousness of which poverty is a sign".

Poverty is the Church's distinguishing feature and "saves us from becoming organisers and entrepreneurs," Francis said.

The Argentine pontiff has frequently voiced concern for the poor and needy in his homilies, and shown a marked preference for simplicity, shunning papal trappings such as a solid gold cross and fisherman's ring.

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Comments on this article
Dr. Cajetan Coelho, Goa, India
Sunday, June 16, 2013

Spiritual riches are vital for our sanctification. Humility, poverty, simplicity and honesty can set us on the way to spiritual growth. Add to it justice and concern for the poor, downtrodden and disabled, one has a ready road map to celebrate this short pilgrimage called life. God Bless Pope Francis.

alwin, bejai
Friday, June 14, 2013

Jesus protect,save and bless our Pope

essell, mangalore,India
Friday, June 14, 2013

It would be nice if Papa's message is conveyed during Sunday mass. But till now we have not heard none of new Papa's messages.

A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Deepak, Paladka: What you have said is 101% true. This high competition to have the most beautiful, the largest with the tallest cross at the top has to be totally changed. While I watch
the fund-raising in the U.S. to build mega Churches (non-Catholic),
I was greatly amazed. On the other
hand, the young generations who are spiritual, they are leaving the Churches and worshipping in the American Churches where they can learn the Bible and worship in a free spirit. Is there any difference of Ambani's 1 billion mansion surrounded with slums, and the Christian Churches building
mega Churches surrounded with huts and suffering people? We need to have a comfortable place to worship, but that doesn't mean the place is like a palace of adoration!

EP, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

These are the spirit filled words from Pope, which we rarely hear from the modern catholic priests. Modern churches have become a places of fashion,dignity, place of celebrations, entertainment etc. without the basic knowledge of word of god. Pope is very clear in his statement based on word of god, "First seek the Kingdom of God and everything will be added unto you". God Bless you Pope.

Well Wisher, Karnataka India
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Well Deepak Paladka I agree with you about your comments you are absolutely right that all the churches must have one centralized office and must put all the churches under that one centralized office and that office must look after all the financial accounts and financial needs and financial expanses of all churches and must look after all the churches benefit equally and for all bishops, priest and clergy of all churches must fix a monthly salary to meet their personal expanses and their financial needs. This is how all the churches in America doing. In America all the churches priests have no right to handle the cash and the financial matter of the church there is a separate office and people are there to handle all the financial issues of the church. Even the sunday church collection too people of the office will be handling and the priest have no right to touch the cash. In AMERICAN CHURCHES priest are getting their monthly salary. Is our Mangalore and udupi diocese Bishops are ready to introduce and do this kind of job? For this issue is there any explaination and clarification from the Bishops of Mangalore and Udupi diocese? May be Bishop of Udupi diocese will able to follow this method why because he a simple person but the Mangalore Bishop will never why because he is not simple he is very proud person

G.W.Carlo, Hassan
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Another reformer?

I pray for his health.

olivia sequeira, kulshekar
Thursday, June 13, 2013

wonderful words kindly print and post to all our churches especially in mangalore

John D'Silva, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Long live dear papa.I think he is frankly speaking sheperd to clence faithful.I have been watching last 30-40 years since gulf money start flowing into our household,a change had taken place in our attitude and also among the leaders of church.A line of devide among wealthy and poor is there in every parish.I respect few priests who truly represent presence of christ but some are biased and more inclined to rich.I feel sorry to say few priests behave like professional builders.I still cherish lost glory and beauty of our church when priests were concerned for spirituality,Kind to poor section of the society,Lived very simple life,Cared each family as his own.Today we do have sterio type attitute among clergy.First built the marriage hall followed by demolition of kannada medium school building,errecting english medium school on prime location,shifting kannada medium school,then comes church commercial complex benefiting lot of local merchants who are well to do,finally demolishing existing church eventhough it can manage another 25 years and raising new one.The list is endless.I am not against growth.My worry is why do we need commercial complex in church compound?Why do we built english medium school in every parish when we have reputed english school in same locality which welcomes all faiths.Why do we require marriage hall when best hall is available nearby.Millons of saving spent on unneccessary needs.As a catholic I feel we need a priest who can built family bondage not buildings.Who can be councellor for spiritualy poor instead of cashier.Who can be impartial instead of impractical.Dear papa transform catholic church from materialistic world to spiritual.Let poverty,hunger,injustice wiped out from every parish.

mohan, mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

I think 2000 years before there were no banking system, people hinding their money in walls or undergrounds, now world has changed.one should not think that the priest or bishops having an account not sprirtuals. without money no one can live, todays world is not like 2000 years before,

Vivek Pais, Kadri
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Pope is absolutely right. Why pope has passed on this message is Priests are very much interested in business activities rather than spreading the word of God and serving the poor. This is nothing but conflict of interest.

Ajay Lobo, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Well said dear Papa. Hope Bishop of Mangalore and priests hear what His Holyness has said. We are concentrating more on demolishing old churches and building new ones which is not required. We are building big halls which are not needed. People are forced to pay for all this waste expenditure. But there are some good priests who live very simple life and concentrate more on spirituality. Also, there are lot of catholics who donate and serve the poor. Best example: Mr. Ronald Colaco. There are some true catholics who build houses for the poor. Also, there are lot of donors who donate for worthy causes. Pope's message is eye opener for all of us.

CYRIL MASCARENHAS, KIREM/MIRA ROAD/DUBAI
Thursday, June 13, 2013

OUR POPE CAME FROM BOTTOM LINE.HE KNEW HOW OUR PRIEST ARE..HE IS 100% CORRECT..THIS MSG SHOULD HAVE READ IN THE CHURCH DURING SUNDAY MASS..

pius, udupi
Thursday, June 13, 2013

In the first century,when the aposteles were the leaders of the church, they appointed some spirit filled christians to manage money and other issues. Because they wanted to devote themselves to preaching the word of God and to pray. But catholic leaders are vice versa.

Rrag, Dubai-Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

JESUS … was born in a manger …and lived a simple life helping his father in carpentry…His birth growth,life and death was living example for the community …church and world at large.
Here is an eye opener. . We love you Papa … Francis ! You are a Divine Grace, save our religion and religious leaders from all disgrace especially gathering wealth, holding, hoarding and accumulating for personal or otherwise.

Today WE NEED :
A place of worship / Shelter but not a Royal palace !
A Spiritual Teacher, but not a Preacher !
A living Transformer, not a Translator !
A Loyal community leader but not a Royal community leader !
A Lamp but not millions of Electric Lights !
A Ground /Earth to kneel, but not a Granite /Marble floor !
A Loving heart but not a Hatred mind !
A simple Boundary to protect but not high end walls !
A narrow Entrance but not Broad Entrance “Maha-Dwara” with Pillars !
An inter –community blocks to build Peace but not interlocks in the church ground/compound !
Money to help the poor but not a Fund- Raising plans to make the community poor ..!
A milk and honey flowing community not a cheque and drafts flowing accounts.!
A Schools to teach Humanity but not Schools teaching Vengeance..!
A Garden of Eden but not a Garden of Jealous..!
Bind us together Lord…Bind us together …..with that Chords can’t be broken …

surendra , dubai/mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

There different law for rich and poor other wise who will go for business.

Prakash D., Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Pope's Message to the church is to introspect. Church means laity, religious, priests, bishops and Pope. Therefore the message is for all. Let us not pin point or play blame game. Let us take the message in true spirit.

lavina, derebail
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Very true.

Alban D Souza, Udyavara-Mumbai-Doha Qatar
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Pope follows his philosophy to be a true Christian in deed. Of course one has to follow, but who and how many? Any way this message from Pope to everyone all the Christians irrespective of priests. There should not be corruption inequality irrespective of rich or poor. Rich people can donate and share their wealth and poor can benefit through the church . Church is basically for the spiritual growth of an individual. This is most important money also needed but church can share this generously as part of the charity work. St. Francis of Assisi lived a poor life on this earth but rich in spiritual values and even today Franciscan priests and nuns living by example. God bless our great Pope.

RTN MICHAELMATHIAS SHIRVA ROTARY, PILARSHIRVA
Thursday, June 13, 2013

very good message for us catholic from our pope.

Annie, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

So true! The Church refers to the clergy and laity together. Its high time some of our church leaders put the Pope's words into actions, especially our clergy, who have no time for the "not so well off" people in the church. They rather be busy in putting together high profile projects for the "church" involving crores of rupees instead of helping the needy in their problems. They are more engrossed in lobbying for better prospects (becoming parish priests of wealthy parishes, bishops) for themselves and holidaying abroad in the name of social service! The clergy, especially as I have observed in Mangalore diocese live like business tycoons!! Who has time to genuinely help the poor!! But I must say, Pope Francis does what he speaks and speaks what he practices. Long live Pope Francis!!

G.Fernandes, M'lore/UK
Thursday, June 13, 2013

True message from our dear Papa..
The message is loud and clear.
An eye opener to those religious leaders,priests who turn a blind eye towards the poor and the needy
Long live Papa...We Love you...

Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Though marriage/divorce is not a topic of this news, a few readers' comments did bring up the topic because it pertained to differed treatment towards the poor and rich who approached the Church heads, therefore, I too have something to say.

I find it too contradicting that if a Catholic couple is living as husband/wife after a civil marriage, the Church compels them to solemnize their marriage failing to which they are branded committing adultery. However, just a Church marriage is not sufficient to prove a marriage, civil registration too is essential.

At the same time, if a couple is in a troubled marriage and wants to get out of it, the Church drags them with no end but the matters are simplified to wealthy parties. Whereas the civil side of the marriage ends in relatively shorter process regardless of financial status of those involved.

Too contradictory and a religion of convenience I honestly say ! That too of convenience of the Church Heads !

His Holiness the Pope has just smitten a thread. The tangle has grown into a web made of ropes, it will take a long long time to repair the system.

Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

If you digest what our Pope said means you will never try to accumulate wealth in your life nor you run after wealth at all. But how many will take his sincere advice for serious? I believe not even 25% people including me also!!!! Because we still believe that to certain extent money can solve our problem that is true also in this modern era but we never learned a principle to put “full stop” somewhere once we achieve our minimum requirement of our life. It is like “Popere Panpere, Nama Kenuva, Bokka Malpune Bethene”

Jasmine, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Very well said :) This shows the Highness of Gods Servant :) Praise The Lord

Charles D'Mello, Pangala
Thursday, June 13, 2013

The Pope is following true Christianity and that is the way it should be, but unfortunately we seldom see such acts in our churches. I have never heard of a priest anouncing in the church that has some money for poor and please take it...!!!?? Instead every mass they ask for donations to build something or to repay the loans taken from Bishop to build something...!!! Hope this message of our pope reaches all religious heads and poor people will benifit in the future at least. I fear longivity of Pope Francis, not because of his deeds...but because of corrupt people around him...!!!??

Societal Web, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Those who are "I agree" - He is not asking you to agree nor your consent. Just appreciate what he has done and pray for the Church. Thank you guys !

Francis, Moodbidri/Dubai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Pope talking about Catholic Church wealth accumulation But our heart broken or selfish(?) people just jumped in to divorce cases. I think divorce cases should not enter into this article?

Stany Dsa, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Dear Francis,
there is strong link between pope's message and divorce issue. Rich people in catholic churches can get divorce quickly, whereas poor will get 3-4 years. Also it shows corruption in church. I am Glad, Pope raised this issue

Vivek Pais, Kadri
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Priests should take this message from High Command seriously.

Robin steevan, Kudla
Thursday, June 13, 2013

VERY WELL SAID BY POPE.

WORLDLY THING AND WORLDLY LUST &

WORLDLY PLEASURES ARE TEMPORARY FOR

EACH & EVERY HUMAN BEING.

SPECIALLY OUR RELIGIOUS LEADERS/PRIESTS
ARE RUNNING BEHIND SUCCESS & RICHES

THIS SHOULD BE STOPPED. THESE THINGS
ARE TEMPORARY & NOT PERMANENT.

SIMPLE LIFE IS GREAT LIFE.

MAY GOD BLESS H.H.POPE.

Herman, Mulki / Mumbai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Good message from Pontiff.....wealth is not at all....part of church and clergy should follow and understand clearly the message of Pope and do not give importance to wealthy people who wants front seats at every gatherings...poor are too part of the congregation .... Must understand well .

Daniel, Udupi
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Great! Christians have a True Shepherd, Pope Francis 1 especially in this present time- Spirit filled leader. Church is reviving to Her more Glorious Godly nature as built for. The Gospel of Christ the Lord is becoming a way of life and accept 'GOD IS LOVE' as the Gospel says.
He is Christ the Lord, who brought good to the world and gives salvation to the humanity.

FLAVIAN DSOUZA, CHIK/BANAGLORE
Thursday, June 13, 2013

I do agree with his views that we should not run after wealth and accumulate at any cost. but if you have a fair and ethical way of making money make it and accumulate just what you need and distribute for good causes.dont make the pooe lazy by feeding them. classic example is Bill gates/azim premji and warren buffet all have plegded most of their wealth for some very worthy causes

Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Dear Flavian,
Holy Father Pope Francis is NOT advising businessmen nor lay people!
He is guiding Catholic Church not not eye riches.
Churches are suppose to preach Gospel, serve the needy and practice charity.
Off course as you said, charity shouldn't make someone lazy but support who is really weak and make him able to stand on his own.

JOHN DSOIZA, Mumbai/USA
Thursday, June 13, 2013

I agree with you. As my divorcee from the court took only 90 days . But i got my Chuch Divorcee only after 3 years . I dont know what is the logic of making people wait for 3 years when you are already divorced form the court. SO my humble apply his to please change or modifiy this rule atleast it can be done little bit faster.

Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Holy Father Pope Francis is right as always!
He follows what he preaches!

One who loves the things of the world more than the Lord our savior can not practice the teachings of Lord Jesus Christ.

For his heart will always long for riches! One can not serve TWO masters at the same time!

Simon Lobo, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

The pope is absolutely right and there may be resistant to implement his plans to help poor. Pope Francis has practiced and lived simple life to be a good Shepard. Let us pray to God to make his plans and vision for the church come true and help the poor and needy.

Please note there are checks and balances on finance issues and management within a given diocese. Even though, there is a saying goes around that parents wish that their son be a priest than him going to Middle east for a job, it all comes back to words pope used to in this context to explain church being lifeless over the time. The church finances are well maintained and parishioners are informed during the annual visit of Bishop. All weekly collections are announced in churches so that accountability exists and is working.

In last thirty years or so, there are many around us risen from poor or middle class families and doing financially well. There used to be families with estates and tile business were part of those being rich. The rise in middle class percentage has helped the churches for supporting activities. This also raised questions on instances where treatments extended to people. It is possible to minimize such situations and church leadership can help us.

It is also interesting to note that some of priests due to their busy schedules have developed business person type of relationships with people. It has impacted people visiting from distance places. I have experienced where I was made to wait for hours.

In these contexts it is important that we keep focus on our prayers. We should pray that church reforms planned by Pope will help all those who have been seeking such changes for a while and reconcile our faith with God.

We have to help all to believe in God and have his mercy on mankind.

Helen B.Nazareth, Mangalore/Mumbai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Long live dear Pope Francis.Mother Mary will help you and guide, guard you in all your routine work.
Helen B.Nazareth

William Cardoza, Mangalore/Kinnigoli
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Almighty God has invoked this st atement in the mind of the Holy Father. The Papal representative in India, at New Delhi should order Indian Cardinals and Bishops to read this message during Holy Masses on Sundays to the Laities.This is a warning to all of us also those who amass wealth and neglect the charities in our life time. Long live PAPA and God Bless Him.

A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.
Thursday, June 13, 2013

I am a non-Catholic, strictly a non-denominational Christian and thank GOD every day for Pope Francis. When we look at the first century Church, and the way in which our LORD AND SAVIOUR lived on earth, how He was concerned with the hungry and hurting world we the followers of CHRIST must be totally ashamed of ourselves in our total delinquency in taking care of the crying and hungry world. I am not afraid to tell it openly that the Christian religion has more politics inside the Churches of all denominations,
and more busines than the secular world. It is high time to retreat to the practical Christianity which JESUS taught us to do.

Anthony Lobo, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Dear Pope, I pray that you have a long life to clean the church.

Suzanna, Mira Road
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Perfect message for all the Priests esp from Mangalore. Daijiworld, hats off to publish this article on your website. Hope this message reaches them.

harish, dubai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

What pope said is 100% correct I agree with this.

Ted, Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Good advice by Pope to priests from Udupi and Mangalore Diocese who are competing with each other to demolish existing Churches and build million dollar Churches.

Rosaline D'Souza, Mangalore / UK
Wednesday, June 12, 2013

I am so happy that we have a Pop like francis. God send him for us.
When I was divorced, i had to apply for divorce from church (I got dicorce from court in 90 days). The priest incharge of divorce cases tourchered me like anything and took 42 month to get my dicorce.
I digested this, and still I am following catholic sect.
Now I am married to a person of diferent religion.
What made me angry was, my calssmate, who also got divorced, applied for divorce for church got dicorce letter in 45 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just because her father was businessman in gulf!
I am ready to give my testimony...but poor should not be exploited
Please...please..do not torcher innocent youngsters in the name of cannor law!

Rober Cony, Mangalore / Dubai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

honestly sir..just becasue my church told that i need three years to get divorce certificate,I am married to a Sri lankan..and happily living my life. I will tell you Indian Court is much better than our 'rich-loving' church law!


Cynthia, Tallur / Israil
Thursday, June 13, 2013

I truly appreciate Rosaline's comments.
I have similar experiience.
The incharge of Mangalore dioeces for divorce case will hear cases fast if your are rich. If you are poor, he will ask all unwanted questions!! (Even..how you were in bed with your hubby!!!!!)

We want relief from this arogant Mangalore diocese attitude.
Deat bishop of Mangalore, please treat every one as human bieng and not as rich and poor
thanks

Jude, Mangalore Dubai
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Just a clarification on a lighter note. The church does not grant divorce to anyone and it is simply not allowed in the catholic faith. What is granted is an annulment of marriage when the church is convinced that the holy vows of matrimony were not taken in complete honesty. Annulment is granted when it is established that one of the partners has lied about his or her past, hidden facts, cheated in the first instance to marry by providing wrong information, practice witchcraft etc etc. I think all of you who keep using the word DIVORCE are not aware of this important fact. However, I agree that money power and social importance has made it possible for many to get a quick annulment when many others have to go through years of mental torture. I hope Pope Francis cracks the whip and makes sure that all followers of the RC faith are treated equally by the clergy irrespective of their wealth and influence. Other than annulment, I also know of cases when some children are denied the sacrament of Holy communion if they happen to miss classes whereas others have the privilege of receiving communion without attending a single class. The same also happens in Baptism, Marriage etc etc and it is one of the reasons why many people are leaving the faith in disgust.

mdsouza, usa
Thursday, June 13, 2013

It is worthwhile to review all divorce cases approved/denied by the diocese of Mangalore. How many wealthy got approved and how many poor got denied. One of the wealthy family well known to me and mentioned a priests name in Jeppoo(I prefer not to disclose) and explained how they got quick divorce using their money power. Bishop of Udipi is a gem of a person who has lived a simple life. He is a blessing to all of us just like Pope Francis. Mangalore diocese priests especially priests in powerful positions like directors of colleges, hospitals please do not forget your beginings and respect poor people. There are still very good priests in both diocese. can Bishop of Mangalore give a statement or show some gesture that poor people are more important. It is time to attend weddings/funerals of poor people. Once a year washing feet of 12 disciples does not do any good to anyone. Long live Pope Francis, chosen by the Heavenly father to lead us. Papa we love you.

Tony Crasta, Sydney/Mangalore
Thursday, June 13, 2013

Pope Francis is on right track. Keep going Papa and good luck in your tasks ahead. You have a long way to go!

Anuj Nayan, Udupi
Wednesday, June 12, 2013

Wonderful statement by pope..
I hope this may enlighten and bring senses to local churches, Institutions and priests...

Stany Dcosta, Mangalore
Wednesday, June 12, 2013

This is true.
Hope Bishop of Mangalore reading this news.
Your really great dear our Pope

Dayanand Bangera , Katapady / Abu dhabi
Wednesday, June 12, 2013

well said and true.........

Deepak, Paladka
Wednesday, June 12, 2013

The message is very clear from our Pope. But it is very difficult to follow.since there are churches in town and villages there is always a competition towards the look and activities of the church. So our priests and public are at competition and need more and more funds to be number one church in activities. To avoid this all the churches should have a centralized management system. This system will over look all the expenses and betterment of churches. This will avoid unnecessary pressure on our priests and it will help them to concentrate more on bringing people close to the god. God bless our pope.

Vincent Rodrigues, Katapadi/Bangalore
Wednesday, June 12, 2013

Really great philosophy of Pope that Catholic Church should not eye riches instead do what God has said to love the poors and have nots.Work for the poor to whom no one helps or supports.The Pope really uphels the greatest values of society to build the better society.Thanq.

 
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