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Monday, June 25, 2012 11:29:34 AM (IST)  

Mangalore: Miscreants Pelt Stones at Holy Hill, Damage Property

Bishop Condemns Attack on Holy Hill, Commissioner Swings into Action

Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore

Mangalore, Jun 25: Dr Aloysius Paul Dsouza, Bishop of Mangalore has condemned the stone-pelting incident at Holy Hill, near Nantoor on here Monday June 25.

"This is a clear effort towards disrupting peace in the society. I am pained to hear of this incident today and I condemn the stone-pelting and damaging of property at prayer places like Holy Hill," he said.

"We have made numerous appeals to the authorities against the attacks on Christian churches and prayer centres, still we do not see any strict action from the authorities concerned. The incidents are recurring on a regular basis," he added.

The bishop once again appealed to the district administration to give suitable protection to religious places and to the entire Christian community.

Congress leader Ivan D'Souza, International Federation of Karnataka Christian Associations (IFKCA) president Denis D'Silva, Mandd Sobhann president Stany Alvares, and others visited the spot and also condemned the act by miscreants.

Meanwhile, Mangalore city police commissioner Seemanth Kumar Singh informed daijiworld that three special teams have been formed to trace the culprits who damaged the Holy Hill property. Rural police station inspector Ravish Naik, CCB inspector Venkatesh Prasanna and Bunder police station inspector Vinay Gaonkar, are leading the teams.

"We are confident that, soon we will nab the culprits" said Seemanth Kumar

Mangalore: Miscreants Pelt Stones at Holy Hill, Damage Property
 
Pics: Dayanand Kukkaje
Daijiworld Media Network – Mangalore (VM)
 
Mangalore, Jun 25: A group of miscreants pelted stones at Holy Hill near Pumpwell on Sunday June 24 night.
 
It is learnt that the miscreants entered the Holy Hill premises after the prayer service which usually ends at 7 pm and damaged the alter, flower pots and various other items.

The incident came to light when a neighbour came to switch off the lights on Monday June 25 morning. He passed on the information to Paul Rodrigues, managing director of Holy Hill.
 
Speaking to Daijiworld, Melwyn D’Silva, in-charge of Holy Hill said that the police arrived at the spot and cleaned up the place before the media could arrive.

Police commissioner Seemanth Kumar Singh, DCP Dharmaiah and ACP Jagannath inspected the spot.
 
A case has been registered in the rural police station.


Comments on this article
David Dsouza, Mangalore/ Abu Dhabi
Saturday, July 07, 2012

Let me bring to the notice that the normal citizens in our country respect all religion and our faith is respected the most. This is surely the work of the local political activist who wants to make some mark in the society, they feel this way they make publicity for their movement.

Dr. Cajetan Coelho, Goa, India
Thursday, June 28, 2012


Our Continent of Asia has been a cradle to many world religions, spiritualities and cultural ways of worldmaking. Major world movements such as Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, Confucianism, Zorasterism and Christianity have all originated in spiritually vibrant Asia. The founders and mentors of all these movements came from different parts of Asia.

Our people in India have been pioneers in the art of peace-making and peace-keeping. Prayer, sacrifice, solidarity, fellow feeling and respect for the other have been the major weapons in the tool-kit of our Society. We need to thank the Giver of Life and try and respect the sacred places of our fellow citzens so that all can journey through life without unneccesary hiccups.


abdul sathar habiballah, belapu/Jeddah K.S.A
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Nagesh Bangalore and Rakesh Mangalore it is clear that BJP/RSS and Bajrangadal want to keep their name secret, that is why u r taking the name of Muslim and Poojary team.Better to keep mom.

Rakesh shetty, mangalore
Wednesday, June 27, 2012


I AM SURE ALL THIS IS DONE BY CONGI MUSLIMS AND J POOJARY TEAM.

ONCE POLICE CATCH ALL REAL CRIMINALS, THEN ALL TRUTH WILL OUT.

prakash, mangalore
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Mr. Nagesh,
If something happens to your temple, you go and cause more harm to others than what others did to the temples. Sorry, but that is the reality.

Juliana, Udupi
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

The Holy Cross was erected as written by some one to commemorate the difficulties the earlier Christians had to bear under the Tippu rule. It was a sign of victory in memory of the courage shown by them during their difficult times. It was no harm to any religion. Exploitation of the structure is highly condemnable since it is a question of reliability of the religion in the surroundings. What harm could it do to any passer by as even after being written at the place only for the purpose of prayer in times of need?

N. Frank, India/Ksa
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

nagesh nayak, bangalore, comments are right this time. Looking at the pictures, the damage to property is negligible, just the flower pots broken, also the fact that the police could clean up the place before the media could arrive, certainly shows the damage was not worth mentioning. Yes it is a true example of making a mountain out of a mole

Calvin, Surathkal/USA
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

I come to Daiji just to read Mr NAGESH NAYAK's comment...NAGESH NAYAK is really the hero of this website.

In this case, I partly agree with him. Christianity is not limited to a statue or some physical thing. These miscreants are hell bent to create tensions between Christians and Hindus, 99.9% of whom have best relationship with Christians. Lets not waste time with these incidents and clean up asap and give them a message that they cannot affect us in any way. May our LORD give them some sense.

Reshmi Salian, Mangalore
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Nagesh Nayak...who wants to build Ram Temple at Ayodhya? Who demolished Babri Masjid? Don't tell "WHOLE TEMPLES GRAZED BUT WE NEVER DO LIKE YOU". It is your Advani (now give him koti koti pranam) who is responsible for religious disharmony in the country. So there is a curse on him that he will never be able to become PM of India. Only thing is he can dream..but due to his karma, he can't become PM.

Deepak, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Only the job less people can do this kind of bad activities for little money from some back ground people who indulge in this ...they surely get a revert on this...

Nagesh Khalnayak, Bangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

The trail will lead straight to MUTHALIK'S or the monkey's office...once our police machinery reach there, they would take a U turn with a sense of pride that these Christians deserved it.

nagesh nayak, bangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

hey, Pearl, Mangalore/ Dubai,

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN TEMPLE WE NEVER EXPOSE FOR SYMPATHY & MONEY.

WHOLE TEMPLES GRAZED BUT WE NEVER DO LIKE YOU .

YOU ARE MAKING MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLES.

STOP THIS NUISANCES & DO SOME REAL SOCIAL WORK

Lancy Moras, Bendur - Jeddah KSA
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Jerry, Belman..and Antony Cony, karkal, Doha..thank you very much and God bless you my dear. "Father Forgive them, they do not know what they do" kindest words from Lord Jesus's holliest lips to save His sinful mankind, we need to recollect in our horrible skull before inking some ugly thoughts about our our Christianity in an open book that too being a Christian (we are much aware and I doubt). Eraly confession is the only remedy dear. We will pray for such people that God the Father will enlighten their minds soon.

paul d`souza, balakunje
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

I really admire & feel nice to hear comments from Mr. Nithin Poojari/Mangalore/UK. This world never run under the influence / power By science. Where the power of science ends.......from there the god power works.....! it is not that we blame only hindu`s. As i know they are too love & respect christianity & christian friends. Every coin has two faces. Good & Bad...! I request every one on earth.....pls dont play or damage with religion sentiments. If you have guts call to Nehru Maidan IN MANGALORE (Ample of space there)& invite several to watch & fight. Thank you.

Pearl, Mangalore/ Dubai
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Nagesh Nayak,

If this same incident had occured in the temple would your comment be the same.
Instead as usual your dialogue would be creating communal problems, trying to destroy hinduism, put the people behind bars etc etc.
But when it some to other community for you its just ridiculous.
Fights are common. Even your hindu groups attack people just for name and fame.
Think properly before commenting. It applies even for DINESH POOJARY & RAKESH SHETTY.

Please stop this communal hatred and interact with all people of different communities and be united .Dont divide.

Janet, Miyar/UAE
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Very sad, Jesus Christ, pls punish the culprits.

nagesh nayak, bangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

JUST FOR FLOWER POT BREAKAGE BY SOME MISCREANTS WHOLE WORLD IS MOURNING.

AT THE SAME TIME A SOLDIER (HINDU) SACRIFICE HIS LIFE FOR INDIA BY FIGHTING AGAINST MUSLIM TERRORISTS,MUSLIM SOLDIER FROM PAKISTAN NO WORDS FROM PESUEDOS.

JAI HO.

jerry, belman
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

dear N.FRANK.KSA u thoughts r quite different ,and far to this matter ,u cant carry a cross to saudi and cant worship there ,so u r writing like this ???u need a good retreat if u r a good christian or a catholic,may god help u in this matter wen u reach to mlore ,mulky is close for u ,many people loose hair in middle east after few years !!!!but u lost some thing more than that ,so if u have time now also u can read mr .dave comments and other people comments which may help u to enlighten ur old spirit,or say refresh,bcoz mlore is very far and u may more busy on vacation too ,so some u can read on daijiworld itself now ,have nice time and try to follow a good sheperd not a vibrateing one .

George A. Borromeo, Angelore, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Who ever attacked the Holy Hill Cross are eunuchs, They dare not to attack it in Day time showing their faces.

umesh , mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

I quote Mr.Mark twain “Man is a religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the true religion — several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven.”

Sandeep,
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Only God can give us true justice than the people who act to protect us but behind try to harm us.
So let us all who want justice call on GOD THE ALMIGHTY to bring the culprits at the feet of the cross asking for forgiveness,let us now pray as one family "God we offer the culprits at your feet,bring them to your Love"I am sure if we all pray this as united,i am sure they will one day for sure admit their mistake in front of the cross at holyhill.

Daniel, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Dave: Glad for defending, Thank you. It is easy to raise doubts & questions in ignorance but difficult to grasp in humility without enough knowledge. Throughout the ages enormous people have tried hard to destroy the faith with such doubts but instead flourished. The Catholic Church never bent and compromised on human commands but the Devine. That is why there are many denominations and others where differ themselves but not the Catholicism. All questions literally even they do not know and act anti-Christian otherwise they have to follow. Doubts to be cleared with the one concerned & qualified and not to debate in this type open form, abusing way.

Some run away ignorantly or arrogantly. Great are the treasures hidden in the scriptures beyond human wisdom, which can’t be interpreted so easily by anyone! I want to end with what Jesus said “do not doubt but believe”. So let us go back to the news topic.

joboy, mlore/dubai
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

I dont understnd what did they gain???in fact they lost their souls..

Walter Pinto, Doha-Qatar(Belthangady)
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

As long as BJP is in power in Karnataka, persecution against minorities will continue to happen.

shaan, Abu Dhabi
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Mr.Thapan, PFI is formed around less than 10 years time bu what about RSS which started 1925 and still drinking Muslim, backward, daliths and christian blood.. Now its reduced because of PFI...Please agree .....

Ted, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists,Parsis and Jews may be a Minority constitution just 20% of the Indian Population, But we are Indian Citizen first, and even we have a Fundamental Right to live in dignity and not fear. Its high time the government protects the minorities and nab the culprits who create religious tensions .

Roland, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

I reckon that the Catholics are missing some dynamic leaders of the past. The current catholic leaders are just make a name for themselves in the community and I persoanlly feel they just do all the "natak" for publicty sake. I am sure most of the catholics will agree with my comment. I dont want to name anyone here, but I feel the catholic leaders must have a good rapport with the leaders of other communities, to avoid any incidents like these.

Justin Lobo, Bangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

@Rihan, DXBI quote yours: Mary is the only woman mentioned by name in the Quran. "Oh Mary ... God has chosen you above all the women in the world" (Quran 3:42).
WHAT IS THE USE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF A CHAPTER ABOUT MARY IN THE QURAN. SHOW ME THE CHAPTER ABOUT JESUS IN THE KORAN. The editor of the Koran III caliph forgot to mention.

Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Dear kiran, mangalore,
READ KALLADKA PRABHAKAR BHAT'S SPEACH IN DAIJIWORLD DELIVERED IN UPPINANGADY.

naveen, kottara
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

election round the corner congress tantra

Lloyd D'souza, Surathkal
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Real cowards attacking from under mask & attaking in groups to innocent people. My faith has become more stronger for Christianity now & even all Christians have & No one can break it.

munna, karkala/qatar
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/Mumbai,

Gud idea. Ramasene leader, Pramod Muttala might agree for 50000 per month per church.

Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

In the Year 2006, one Mr. Faizal was killed by some miscreants in Kerala and blame game started ever since by accusing RSS Activists. Six Years passed but last month Kerala Police arrested 2 CPI(M) Leaders for murder charges of Mr. Faizal. That also Late Mr. Faizal’s wife herself sought CBI Investigation by refusing earlier version of Kerala Police regarding murder charges.

In Malegaon Blast case, Maharashtra ATS Team arrested 6 Muslim youths and detained them for 5 years in Jail only to release after they came to know that Sadhvi Ritambara & Team involved in Blast case. In earlier Mangalore Church Attack cases, real culprits not yet known but blame put on few “Sena” people after conducting so many investigation efforts.

Here again who is doing what nobody knows. Instead of relying on Police Department, better our Community should appoint few likely minded people from all religious to investigate secretly the incidents happening like this. Let the truth come out openly and then our Government takes actions according to Law of the Land and we being responsible citizen should ban those culprits from our civilized society for ever

Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/Mumbai
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Why don't we ask Bajrang Dal and Rama Sena to guard our places of worship.........

Fredrick Correa, Pernal/Mumbai
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

From the comments of some of the people, it is very clear that people wish to make statements of what they have in their hearts. We should not blame anyone, until the real culprits are caught for which 3 police teams have been formed. Please have patience and do not speculate. Besides this is not a forum to express your religious beliefs and disbeliefs. To express your beliefs and disbeliefs there are proper forums. People who comment and ridicule on religious beliefs of others bring in more harm than good.

Nithin Poojary, Mangalore/UK
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Next to University of Leeds in UK there is a beautiful chapel which may be around 500 years old, but now the chapel is converted into a pub. later I came to known young Brits do not believe in any religion and people do not visit churches,.......forget sundays majority of them do not attend mass even on Christmas eve. So obviously most of the churches lacked devotees and eventually they have closed down.
Initially I had a very awkward feeling regarding the Brits, But later I realized what if they dont have faith in any religion... they are much happier than we Indians...They dont fight in the name of religion, Their least bothered about this sick topic. Monday to Friday they will work, weekend party... thats it.

Let us not give importance to such incidents, stop reacting to such acts, try to understand its politically motivated, Religion is a major political issue in our country.

We just need to change how we react to the negative situation and channel the emotions that seep through into a more positive reaction.

My above comment is not to hurt any religious sentiments and it applies to all religions, Tommorow some Miscreants may throw stone on temple or mosque.....lets try to ignore such acts and involve ourselves in day to day work. Take my words daiji will have no business.

Its just a small effort to change the rule of the game.

joyce , moodbidri
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

God bless them they dont know what they r doing.


Dave, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Dear Frank again I call you to read my comments properly,
Interpretation of commandments by you are literal & those priests you called or discussed these things are as ignorant as you.
For your info- I had these doubts when I was a teenager, But now I don't have them after getting insights into what is idol worship & what reverence is & what is intercession of Saints is.
For this very reason I asked you to join the forum where your doubts get cleared with valid answers quoted from scriptures & Traditions.
I can give all the answers to you face to face- as my own family members went away from our church just as mislead by those cult leaders & posed these very questions to me as well long back- I went back to Bible & found all the answers & my faith which is built on rock grew more stronger.
Now on stop enforcing your half baked truths on us.
Again may (real) Holy Spirit Enlighten you.

ADS, CANADA
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

very strange. Police, govt officials etc has no value for Christians. Look at Yeddy, look at Reddy, lookat BD leader Mahendra Kumar list goes on and these guys kept on hurting christians and see thier status today. No one like to go closer to them or help them..

Did they succeedeed, do they will succeful in future. We humans has no clue all about except Lord Jesus can helP. Jesus died on cross for us and his followers has to suffer like Jesus for greater joy at some point. People Jesus had never blamed anyone even though people killed him. So life goes on and these evils attacks us but they will loose. One day same men will call upon Jesus for help and that time we christians feel pity on such people and shelter them in our houses.

That is what we are for to help, serve. We are the servant of lord and peace makers and not breakers that is why we are rich in peace. God bless all and let us pray for the attackers to surrender to Jesus for forgiveness and surely they will do it front of the same attacked cross. mark my words.

M.D'Mello, Toronto
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

A Bit of History:
At one of the Mangalore’s gateways of yesteryears, on Nantoor Padav Hills, stands a large Cross erected during mid nineteen hundreds by Bishop Victor Fernandes in memory of martyrs of the ‘Kanara Captivity”. Thee captives led in captivity through the Nanthoor hills, the Western Ghats Jamalabaad Ghada, Mudigere, taken to Srirangapattana after Mangalore fort was surrendered by Campbell. Hence this is a historic monument and is time we put up a plaque with details.

The captivity lasted 15 years and of the 60 thousand prisoners, barely 10, 000. returned after the 4th Mysore war in 1799. Historian Jerome Saldanha, on the eve of the first centennial anniversary in 1899 called the 100 years as the golden era people who regained the position they enjoyed before the capture.

In his letter, Fr. Joaquim Manoel Miranda of Monte Mariano, Farangipet convent Antegualhas, Fascisculo describes the events prior and during the captivity:

“On February 24, 1784 Ash Wednesday, all Kanara Christians were taken prisoners.... The Christians of Nagar (Bednur) have been banished to Chitradurga and the others of Kanara, about 40,000. have been taken to Seringapatana. A number of these died of small pox able men were circumcised and joined to Tipu’s Ahmadi’ corps of foot soldiers.

Tipu himself gives an account in his Memoirs, of the arrest of Kanara Christians:
“The port of Kűriâl (Mangalore) fell into our hands the trechery of the Pâdries known to us, and we directed the Dewân to prepare a “list of all houses occupied by all the Christians. The officers with the Műtusuddies of Soonda, Nugr (Bedenur), Kűriâl (Kodiyal) prepared a detailed report on the subject.”
Of the nearly 60,000 combined captives of North and South Kanara, barely 10,000 returned from captivity after the 4th Mysore war, in which Tipu was shot and killed and all the captives were released.
Cross is the sign of suffering. We are persecuted all over the world.
MD


N. Frank, India/Ksa
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Antony Cony, Karkala / Qatar

Thank you for your mature comments. You rightly pointed out that, these are sensitive issues & this is not the right place to discuss them. Though I agree with your suggestions to maintain peace, yet personally I wish to thank Daijiworld, for giving us the opportunity to discuss these sensitive issues, where by, readers can know, the developments in catholic faith, as to what the clergy teaches, and the diversity of thoughts among the faithful.

If we want to discuss these issues with the priests & nuns, they & people under their influence, will never let you do it, fearing they will loose their authority over the faithful.

They will proclaim to the faithful, only those issues, which will keep the faithful ignorant of the facts written in the Bible, & make the faithful always scared to discuss sensitive issues & make them totally dependent on the clergy to fulfil their religious needs.

I think it is a good idea, & good for the faithful, to discuss these issues openly, in a educative & gentle manner, based on facts/faith & not fanatically based on emotions. This will make us all, important part of chritsianity & direct the religion to follow the right path, that God wants us to follow, as thought by Jesus.

Note: If only the christians had strong faith in God, and valued serving God more than their lives. No one would dare to attack christians or christian places of worship.

We are cowards when it comes to physically fighting for our rights at the cost of our lives.

Many christians who fought bravely for the honour of our religion during the last communal fight, were left to fend for themselves, without a united christian force to release them from prison or see that the cases filed on them were nullified immidiately, instead of years. It is important to show our physical strength, both to the miscreants and the police as well, that we will not tolerate such nonsense in the future, instead of just condemning by words.

lukas, malpe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

instead of throwing stone to the religious place or dead building these people can visit all the hospital in udupi and D.K.district and help those people who need health care and money for the treatment.just for the political mileage these people making rift between two religion nothing else?

Rohith Shetty, Hebri/London
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Another coward act from extremists..Save MLR

Antony Cony, Karkala / Qatar
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Content on this subject column is really critical one,
as far as once faith is concerned.
However, it is wrong to blame anyone at this juncture,
although hypotheses could be many.
Therefore, Dear Dave, N. Frank, Frank, Kenny...
let us not open a new window for 'idols' which is not the need of the hour.
Devil knows the scriptures better than you and me, but they do not follow it. In case we follow it, this is not the right place to discuss which shows how really we are weaker than those who actually destroyed those idols because we too sow the seed of discord between us. It is also called as statueless idol or idol of hindrance setting bad examples on once faith and inter-faith.

Justin Lobo, Bangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Haven't you countered question to priests and nuns what they are doing in their service to God aren't they answerable to God? What right ways are shown to the masses by educating people with Bible scriptures. Un-educating is a boon for the priests and nuns they mean? You query looks half cooked.

antony arun d'souza, Dubai
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

These things are happening in M'lore everynow and then on yearly basis.God will forgive them for say 2-3 years.......like grace period.After grace period may be there will be penalty!!!!

N. Frank, India/Ksa
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Dear Dave Mangalore
You are totally wrong about your interpretations on my comments. My comments are not based on my own imaginery thoughts. They are all from the scriptures. Nothing of my own.

I have not discussed, but confronted the priests and Nuns, based on my understanding of the scriptures, as to why the clergy is not telling the truth about God and ways to worship God without intermediaries to the people.

The answer I got was, Frank you are right, but the people are not educated, to understand the way you understand the things written in the Bible. Therefore my dear Dave, you go and check with your priest, whether my thoughts are meaningful or yours. After that you are welcome to comment on my comments. Thank you.

Frank, Tulu Nadu state of india
My thoughts against idol worship is based item 1 and 2 of the 10 commandments, given by God to Moses. Also Jesus prayed without any idols of God in front of him, Nor did he ask his followers to pray using idols, Jesus in fact broke the idols from the places of worship.

Frustrated Indian, Mangalore
Tuesday, June 26, 2012

How nice. Police actively involved in wiping out evidence. Maahol sab theek hai.

Rakshith, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

R.Fernandes

Yatha Raja Tatha Praja thats in simple ur saying that u too belong to that same category of rajasa and even though am not interested in politics i would say to all the people who r blaming BJP govt that state is Bjp but the central is Congress and also R.Fernandes the current governence which u call is congress in central and think what am saying before u comment on this.

Frank, Tulu Nadu state of india
Monday, June 25, 2012

 I see there is a lot of debate on idol worship by readers. Idol worship may be considered as wrong by some and right by a few others. Some christian denominations, some muslim sects some hindu groups believe in idol worship. Others may not believe in idol worship ( reverence or whatever it is called). One must know to respect others views. Because u do not believe in something, you do not have right to desecrate others places of worship or statues.

Idol worship depends on the person and society cannot decide that all must believe in only one way of worshiping. As far as Bible or any other holy scripture, one must know that the statements on idol worship are contextual and need not be applied as it is. Idol worship is correct because I can garlan God . How will I if there is no statue. This is one example.

I can provide strong arguments in favour of idol worship. Anthropomorphism is very much a part of Human worship whether one uses statues or not. there fore it is very clear that those who think that idol worship or reverence is wrong are only intellectualizing the argument and think themsleves to be greater than or right while others are wrong. This is the first wrong step a person takes in spiritual journey - others are wrong and I am correct


kenny, Mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Dear Dave, Mangalore,

What to call those when scriptures clearly states/confirms and yet doesn’t want to believe and misinterpret?

Psalms 115.4-8 4 Their idols are mere silver and gold, made by human hands. 5 They have mouths, but they can't speak they have eyes, but they can't see 6 they have ears, but they can't hear they have noses, but they can't smell 7 they have hands, but they can't feel they have feet, but they can't walk with their throats they can't make a sound. 8 The people who make them will become like them, along with everyone who trusts in them.

shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udipi
Monday, June 25, 2012

Nagesh Nayak and Shiva,

The number dislikes on your comments itself proves how straight forward and matured people you are. Because of RSS/VHP/BD/SRS India is devided. Why your sangh parivar is not going to our borders to defend it from Pakistan and Bangladesh. You people are scared to shit. You people are good only in minority bashing. By the way whats the contribution of sangh parivar to our nation....? Nothing... A big zero..only hate, venom and devision. Did RSS fight the British Raj? No. not at all. Golwalker was an agent of British and British used him to hate Gandhiji and Indian National Congress. The legacy of Golwalder is being practiced and followed by present day RSS by hating Sonia and Congress. How dare you call her a foreigner when your own culture says that after the marriage the women belongs to her husbands land? Are you defying your won culutre?? You people are brainless and good in hating. Hate is nothing but destruction. I dont care for whats happening in foreign countries. Its their look out. I am concerned about my India. India belongs to me and my children as much as it belongs to you and your family members. We dont need certificate of patriotism from fanatics and communuals like you people. I carry Indian blood in my veins and shall live Indian and die Indian. You are psuedo Indian and a Pakistani and American agent in our holy soil. As long as people like you are around us, we are not safe. For our safety need of the hour is total elimination of people like you. The day is not far..Have patience. Have you ever heard of vedic slogan "sarvajana sukhino bhavanthu" which is core of real hinduism. You are just going against the teachings of vedas.

Rakesh GoriguDDA, MANGALORE
Monday, June 25, 2012

Dear All,
Pls don't come to any conclusion without analysing the fact.Let police investigate & arrest the culprits.We all know what happened in recent church attack in kankanady/.Police arrested the person who had physical relationship with nun in that church.Let us not forget that.

LP , bangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Elections are due in Karnataka in less than a years time. such incidnets are well planned by groups in order to create a devide and hatred between communities. Soon there will be Samajotsves. All to arouse peoples sentiments and garner votes.

Tony Francis, Udupi
Monday, June 25, 2012

Very very sad scene. All agree that Christian community is cool and harmless and always help the poor and needy people of any religion. This is a deliberate attempt. It is more sad to see in the pictures that not even a single religious leader of ours is present in any photograph above, wherein they have been given top importance by us, people, in every celebration that takes place in any church affaris.

Bonifas Walter Peirara, Bikarnakatte/Mysore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Dennis u r right. Priests must defend our faith in times troubles..where are they and are they are guts less ? Shepherd like Ivan is leading the faith ?

Dave, Mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Dear Frank,KSA-
I had previously given a suggestion not to interpret scriptures & arrive at conclusion from our limited knowledge as literal interpretations always give contradictory conclusions.
I request you to discuss your doubts or interpretations with a KNOWLEDGEABLE priest rather than listening to some lambs already gone astray leading others to doom defying the Church established by Jesus himself.
If you don't like any rituals or traditions then don't, but thinking Holy Spirit has revealed everything to you & trying to teach us anything new- then please, we are more enlightened than you in this regard.
This forum is not the right one to voice our view points regarding religion. I request you to join F B forums like We r catholics where these things get very good answers.
May God Enlighten you in right path.

ivan, uae
Monday, June 25, 2012

"praise the lord" theese kind of hurting incidents increasing our faith and unity in christ jesus our savior .one day will come we are not minoritys in india.god bless india.

JUDITH, MANGALORE
Monday, June 25, 2012

So Sad to know!
In the silence let God speaks to us
any how it is Holy hill after all those done this act let God take care of them. It is His will to forgive or to be compassionate......
Let us all pray for those who done this act and let us not judge others.
God I entrust to your care

Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru
Monday, June 25, 2012

Darryl Lobo, Mangalore/Bangalore

Well said dude. You know the cruelty of dirty congis.

Alwyn D Almeida, Mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

My dear Friends, for God sake do not finger anyone or any group. Instead of that please PRAY PRAY PRAY….. Only Prayers can do MIRACLES. God bless those who are behind this act and their families too. You love them also. God bless you all.

thomson, Mumbai
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte,..bravo..great work..atlast you succeeded to make hindu/christian fight each other withoiut knowing the real culprist...


kiran, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Joseph F. Gonsalves..when ..
so mr.shanavazs coments are powr ful to brainwahs people like yoiu..this is exactly shanavaz and attacker expectng..blame on RSS ,BAJRANG..

STALIN. M., BAHRAIN
Monday, June 25, 2012

NAGESH DON'T ACT LIKE A SAINT....YOUR BJP GOVT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING WHILE DAMAGES ARE MADE ON RELIGIOUS PLACES BY YOUR BD AND RAMA SENE PEOPLE! YOU ARE ONLY GOOD FOR COMMENTING AND GIVING LECTURE AND CREATING TENSION AMONG PEOPLE.

ajay lobo, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte..dnt spit yor hatredness here..
we know how safe we are in karnataka and how safe in pakistan or afgan or bagladesh..,,

johnson, Mumbai
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte,....
christian dnt need any protector .. we are happy with our neighboiurs in mangalore than neighbours of chrisitnas in pakistan or afganistan or bangladesh or some places in kerala.

there is no need to show your extra love towards catholic or your hatredness towards hindus...
both will not make any difference.

we have our own knowledge to judge people and their activity all over world and mangalore.

rajesh, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte..dnt read out of subject.first of all this is not chruch attack..also this is not property of catholci..its private property..  secondly..in which place your masjid attacked in karnataka??

this case is realted to hidnu/christians and their beleivers..  no need to show yor fake symoothy / hatredness..  we all know how yoiu preach peace adn kill kafirs to get birth in holy.

John D'Lima, Kadri/Mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

I agree with Mr.James D'Souza this may not be a religious attack but against the managing director Mr.Paul Rodrigues of ERODS group.

Rihan, DXB
Monday, June 25, 2012

Quran recognizes the Jewish and Christian faiths and teaches respect for the followers of these sister religions. The Quran recognizes the truth contained in the doctrines of Judaism and Christianity, and it confirms Abraham, Moses, Jesus and others as true prophets who preceded Muhammad.

The Quran teaches tolerance and is explicit in directing its followers to respect all other faiths.

The birth of Jesus to a virgin mother is narrated in the Quran and is a part of the Islamic belief. Mary is the only woman mentioned by name in the Quran. "Oh Mary ... God has chosen you above all the women in the world" (Quran 3:42).

rajan, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shanavaz..yoru showing your frastration on arest of Syed Zabiuddin alias Abu Jundal in 26/11 mumbai attack.. nothing else..  lol..angalore christnas are mcuh safer in mangalroe compared to pakistan..
ask catholci of india..do they like hindu majority neighboiur or they want pakistani type peaceloving majority...

rajesh, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte.

who are you to point figners at others parents ?? who told you that praveen got no moral education ?

instead of giving lecture to others teach yoiur own kids on moarlity and like sof killilng kafris for holy work, 173 v..ns in heaven for killing kafirs etc etc/..  even christians have not pointed fingers at any group..

your showing noting but your hatredness towards others as you consider showing hatredness towards kafirs as holy work...  christians are much more better in hindu majority india comparatively peacelover ruling pakistan or afgan or bangladesh..

Peter Pereira, Pune
Monday, June 25, 2012

My dear friends, police team was in a hurry to clean the spot before Media arrive. Investigation is only an eye wash.

John D'Souza, Udupi
Monday, June 25, 2012

Holy places doesn't harm any one. May it be a Christian,Hindu, Muslim or any other. Then the people in their senses do not do such vandalism and damage. They are evil and anti social elements. Better they stop it now until it is too late when one day their concious make them guilty. As a member of civilized society it is our duty to condemn such acts and not to find facts to justify or support destruction of holy places.

samith, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

lol shanavaz...
give your moral advice to likes of Syed Zabiuddin alias Abu Jundal, etc who are behind 26/11 ..
tell them ..killing kafris is not so much holy work as per human race..

ALLWYN THOMAS PAIS, MUMBAI MIRA ROAD/DUBAI
Monday, June 25, 2012

GOD PLEASE FORGIVE THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED THIS COWARDLY ACT,BECAUSE EITHER THEY ARE INSANE OR THEIR TREATMENT CANNOT BE DONE IN HOSPITALS,SO THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD FRAME OF MIND,AND THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING,TO DO SUCH A CRIME THEY SHOULD BE VERY BOLD AND HAVE GUTS,BECAUSE THEY DONT FEAR FOR THEIR LIFE,THEY KNOW THE AFTER EFFECTS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY ARE CAUGHT,BUT STILL DOING IT,I HOPE BETTER SENSE PREVAILS IN THEM.

raju, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

mr shanavaz..christians are much more safe in bjp ruled karnataka than peacelover ruling pakistan , afgan or bangla or muslim league ruling kerala..
yoiu are preachng so mcuh to others..atleast yoru view to yoru fundamentaolist s..

Subodh Chattopadhya, Kavathar-Melmane/24 Parganas Par
Monday, June 25, 2012

Mr.Shahnawaz Kukkikutte/udipi/dubai
Mr.Ravi Gopal Acharya, Udupi/Dubai

Who is the person behind 'church attacked' in Nairobi/Kenya/Nigeria wherein main christians are killed.

Who is the person behind church attacks in Darfur-Sudan and in East Timor - Indonesia. Is it handiwork of Bajrang Dal?.

Here nothing was happened. May be some miscreants thrown stones to disturb peace and watch tamasha. Don't try to make mountin out of holy hill..

kiran, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte,..
your coment proves one thing..you wish this attack to be blamed on any hindu orgaisationas...
"morale education" ..this word looks very funyy from yoiur mouth..

Peter Pereira, Pune
Monday, June 25, 2012

Hey RSS Nagesh, do not talk about Iraq, Afghanistan, Kabul etc. etc. We are talking about our own country, and our own place Mangalore. If Iraq is burning, do you want our Karnataka also to burn ? You and your coward 'namard' groups are only in favor of destruction. When your own people, elderly and children need help, you all hide like rats and it it minority who come to the rescue of needy. You even do not hesitate to support Nithyananda about whom all pious Hindus are allergic.

ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA
Monday, June 25, 2012

Shiva....u...r...not doing justice to your name.Don't divert the issue.Like you and like minded are main trouble maker for vested interest in India.Take the issue in human perspective and society point of view.India belongs for every community not as you assume for RSS and Sanghparivars only.Live and let live...One day everybody will perish including you and me...Socho??...we both could not dodge the grilling of universal god...Don't vomit your venomous substance whenever such kind of sensitive issue comes for discussion.

ravi, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

DALITHS ARE IN RECEIVING END......100% right.. last week one peace lover SIDDIQUE raped 15 year old dalit kid..  hope youi also read that article in daiji..

MINORITIES ARE IN RECEIVING END...see..laila khan , riyaz bhatkal , or relegius teahce rmadani or now illegala slaughter man ..no one is safe..


gladysdsilva, karkal/mumbai
Monday, June 25, 2012

Person who distroys other religions holy places distroys his own, because God is one.Let god forgive them.

Subodh Chattopadhya, Kavathar-Melmane/24 Parganas Par
Monday, June 25, 2012

Mr.ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

Don't talk rubbish. We are not treating 'Dalits' as worse than you treat 'Shias' - bombarding there prayer house and even there important place 'Karbala'. Besides you won't allow to stay peacefully 'Ahmadis' - also there prayer houses attack now and than. Is it what your religion preach????????>

Derek, Balmatta
Monday, June 25, 2012

NAGESH..........

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE "BIGGEST ATTACK"

"WHY DOES EVERYBODY ATTACK YOU"!!

HAVE YOU EVER SAT BACK AND THOUGHT AM I "COMMUNAL'????

NEIL SEQUEIRA, MANGALORE
Monday, June 25, 2012

WELL CHRISTIANS DESERVE THIS, AS THE PRIESTS SPEAK IN SERMONS ABOUT DYING FOR CHRIST, WELL WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE SCARED OF..... WELL WHY DONT U WAIT FOR ANOTHER GUJRAT OR ORISSA IN KARNATAKA, VHP IS HINDU EQUAVILENT TO RANVIR SENA WHICH MURDERS PEOPLE IN NAME OF UPPER CASTES.

NAGESH NAYAKU IS SPEAKING ABOUT VHP, BJP RSS NO PROBLEM, LET IT COME THEN HE WILL KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN BJP COMES TO POWER THEY GO TO WAR WITH PAKISTAN START A CIVIL WAR OR EVEN MAKE OUR ECONOMY A 0..... LIKE WE DONT KNOW

HOW UPPER CASTES BROUGHT BRITISH TO INDIA AND SOLD US TO SLAVERY, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, ITS LIKE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF. I THINK INDIA SHOULD HAVE A COMMUNIST RULE LIKE CHINESE WHERE WHIP SHOULD TALK, THEN THESE BLOODY PEOPLE WILL REALISE THE TRUE MEANING OF FREEDOM

Sandeep,
Monday, June 25, 2012

to know about holy hill folow the link.  www.holyhillmangalore.com

rajesh, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte,..it s not started at bjp rule..its long back hisry when tippu sultan used to rule mysore..he used to disroy all relegius places which are not belongs to his love..
still its following in like s of paistan,afgan,or bangladesh..most hidnu temple/chrisitna chruhces wer distroyed...

Subodh Chattopadhya, Kavathar-Melmane/24 Parganas Par
Monday, June 25, 2012

It's act of 'New Life'. Give them there right everything will be okay. In mangalore things went wrong due to New Life who distributed wrong leaflets about Hindu Gods. Things started to get worse and Bajrang Dal becomes active. If need peace in twin districts let Roman Catholics intervent with members of New life and find out a solution. No use to blame to any organisations without any proof.

Mr.Peter Pereria -Pune

Don't use wrong word to any community people. We know to use bad words better than you. Keep on your limits. Our population is growing rapidly. Yours stand stagnant. Just think than who is 'Namard'.


kiran , Mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Please install CCTV cameras, have these places of worship under 24 x 7 surveillance, Its point less to have comments over comments and pointing fingers on who might have done It and why without evidence. It’s Better late than never… and once someone is caught on camera indulging in such acts, I am sure no one can save these culprits from law.

N. Frank, India/Ksa
Monday, June 25, 2012

I wish there will be more people like Jean, Mangalore, who have understood the Bible in the correct perspective, and live the life accordingly

Going through the rest of the comments, gives an impression that faith of most people is based on emotions, created by listening to grandmother/grandfather or bedtime stories. And not strong relation between self and God without any intermediaries

Instead of making a mountain out of a mole, this whole episode should have been treated, nothing more than damage to propertry.

timammppa, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte,..compartively to peace loving pakistan ,afganistan or bagladesh whre bjp is not existing..  cathlic are much more safe in bjp ruled karnataka.

so keep your anti hindu coments with yor own mind..

ramesh, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte..
y you are so much deperate to put blame on particualr sectin of group ?? both in hinduism or christian its not described to attack non beleiver or attackng non beliver as holy work..

by the way y higehst no. of churcehs / temples wer distroyed in pakistan,afgan and bngladesh ??

thapan, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte..
attack not started after bjp...its started after birth of fndamental outfit PFI in mangalroe..
they successully attacking hindu/christian temple/chruches in kerala ..in karnataka look like playing proxy game..  once they increase their count they will start direct attack..

by the way..higest no. of churches/temples are attacked are pakistan ,afgan,bangladesh..hope you know that holy places are not controled by bjp..and its in controll of peace loving relegious education ssytem..

vinay, mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Very sad incident and condemnable. Whoever behind this act should be punished.
Dear commentators, pls dont bring religion/political parties unnecessarily over here. Nowhere its mentioned that, this act done by hindus or any political parties.

Denis Dsouza, Mangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

Mr. Denis Prakash D'souza , The job of a Christian / Hindu priest is not that of a watchman.Priests have other religious duties to do / conduct.Please know the difference , you being an highly educated south kanara citizen.Please do not use this forum to write unwanted things.Pls write sensibly.

Ashok, Udupi/Dubai
Monday, June 25, 2012

Mr. Shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi - be proud of RSS. Even in 21st century they are holding stick, wearing half pant & serving the nation & Culture. Remember they can also afford AK 47.

Alwyn,
Monday, June 25, 2012

its very bad news for all Indians.

ravi, bangalore
Monday, June 25, 2012

shahnawaz kukkikatte..
befrore preaching morar lecture to others ..preach some lesson to those relegius sutudnets and teachers who consider attacking kafris as holy work... as our studnet ajmal ksab did in 26/11...

leeda, Bantwal-Denmark
Monday, June 25, 2012

those who are responsible for this terrible action only i pray with these words: Lord Forgive them they do not know what they are doing.

leeda, Bantwal-Denmark
Monday, June 25, 2012

those who are responsible for this terrible action only i pray with these words: Lord Forgive them they do not know what they are doing.

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