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St Sebastian's Church fire: Delhi Archbishop urges PM Modi to order probe


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New Delhi, Dec 2: Delhi Archbishop Dr Anil Couto, has in a memorandum to Prime Minister Narendra Modi and union home minister Rajnath Singh, called on them to urgently order a judicial enquiry into the burning of the St Sebastian’s Church in Dilshad Garden in the national capital, New Delhi on Monday November 1. The entire interior, including the Altar, the Bible and the Cross were reduced to ashes.


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On the complaint of Church priest Fr Anthony Francis, the police have registered an FIR against unknown outsiders for causing the fire with malicious intent. Senior officers of Delhi police, the special branch and the forensic crime unit came to the spot after many hours, and once the agitated members of the Catholic community blocked the roads in the area. Samples were retrieved from the inside of the church, which was still smelling of fuel oil.

Till late in the evening, police could not say they had made any progress in their investigations.

Addressing the media, Archbishop Couto said apart from the judicial enquiry, the government must repair the building before Christmas, ensure that policemen guilty of dereliction of duty are punished, and special police investigation teams are set up to trace the guilty.

Te Christian community cutting across denominations, and civil society have decided to protest at the offices of the Police Commissioner of Delhi on Tuesday morning to focus attention on the attempts to polarise the people in Delhi state which goes to the polls soon, and the continued persecution of Christians in Madhya Pradesh, Chhatishgarh and other tribal and rural areas.

On Sunday November 30, two house churches in Annupur district of Madhya Pradesh were attacked. Earlier in November, catholic priests in the Bastar region in Chhatisgarh were told all their schools were to install statues of Goddess Saraswati and they would not be allowed to be called “Father”, the usual honorific, by the students, but would be called “Acharya”. In other districts of Chhartisgarh, village panchayats under political influence have passed regulations banning non-Hindu religious persons from organising prayers or opening places of worship in their territory.

Archbishop Couto said the arson in St Sebastian’s church was condemnable not just because it was an act of sacrilege and hate against the community and its faith, but that it could happen in the national Capital which is just recovering from a series of communal incidents. Also distressing is the sense of police impunity. Long hours were lost, and possible evidence destroyed, before the police finally came.

St Sebastian’s church was constructed in 2001 and is among the biggest churches in East Delhi. The church was active till Sunday night because of religious ceremonies for catholic children receiving their first Holy Communion.

The night watchman had handed over charge to the day watchman at 5 am. parish priest Fr Francis was informed by the day watchman of the fire. The fire was still raging when Fr Francis informed the fire brigade and the police.

The community soon collected at the police station to impress on the officers to call in forensic experts. When the police failed to come, roads were blocked for some time. Those who visited the church included archbishops Anil Couto, Kuriakose Bharanikulangara, Bishop Jacob Mar Barnabas , several Members of Parliament, Arvind Kejriwal and former MLAs of the area.

 

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  • The Truth is, NameNot Important

    Tue, Mar 17 2015

    Dont disturb present peaceful karma, live & let live, make sacrifices & enjoy your life too, God is Peace.

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  • Ron, United States

    Fri, Dec 12 2014

    India is a secular country every religion and man has equal rights.Its not Hindus country but its India.Please don't destroy India with religious and casts distinctions.Different religion and different people living in India with peace,love and harmony is INDIAS identity.please let Indian flag be Proudly flying.

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  • Kunal Nandy , Bilaspur

    Fri, Dec 12 2014

    I too have faith on my lyk my all brothers and sisters have n we all should contribute sumthing for thi well being work n forgive the childish persons who have uted this bt the dont know that our god lives in our heart n I too.request to other comunity people that we R Indians n we should be together n brightn D name of our country instead of these activities....!!!
    so we all love jesus
    stay blessed.......... :)

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  • Catholic, Delhi

    Thu, Dec 11 2014

    Our Lord died on the cross and on the third day he rose again. He didnt have to die. But He did to increase our faith. This church too will be rebuilt, and the new building will remind us that our faith teaches us to forgive those who do wrong and pray for them that they learn to love.

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  • CG Prakash, Chennai

    Wed, Dec 10 2014

    What is wrong in calling "Acharya". We will study all subjects in Sanskrit medium only. Only indian history only homeopathy all English medicine thrown out all doctors practicing English medicine will be sent out to America all must wear dhothy Internet and all telecom companies burnt out like St. Sebastian church messages must be sent through 'Dove'. All travel modes invented by foreigners like train, flight,bus etc., burnt out. Use only bullock carts only. Then only we are true indian !!!

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  • Jonathan Symonds, UK

    Sat, Jan 24 2015

    What a lot of primitive and intolerant nonsense - it sounds as though you want to bring everything down to the level of the poorest instead of encouraging everyone to achieve their full potential in the 21st century. What are you afraid of, that you want to control and dominate others in this way? Learn to love and accept diversity, and to forgive perceived wrongs made against you, and you will be truly free to live in peace. And PRAY - pray for all peoples' freedom and well-being, and that India might grow in harmony and love.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 4 2014

    Valerian,

    I would say why did god create lion in the first place?? It doesn`t serve any purpose to Man.

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  • ADS, CANADA

    Fri, Dec 5 2014

    it serves the nature. read books and increase your IQ. WE ARE ANIMALS IN OWN WAYS UNDERSTAND

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  • VEN, NKP

    Thu, Dec 4 2014

    RSS TO FILE A DEFAMATION SHOOT AGAINST CONGRESS,AAP & FATHERS WHO USED THEIR NAME IN MEDIA WITHOUT ANY PROOF TO CREATE AND CONFUSE MINORITIES AHEAD OF DELHI ELECTIONS. WHY AAP & CONGRESS MEN WITH SOME KERALA MISSIONARIES HAND CANNOT BE SUSPECTED ESPECIALLY AFTER MODI'S SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT PLANK WHICH IS GETTING MORE AND MORE MINORITIES STARTED RALLYING BEHIND HIM.

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  • Bob, Hyd

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Stop complaining... whats wrong in promoting Indian language... whats wrong in calling a teacher teacher (ACHARYA) in an indian language... we are sovereign country, we need to promote our language and culture... we have leaved peacefully next to each following different religions before the foreign missionaries in their zeal to spread there religion started creating problems.......

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Valerian,

    Since you are a religious person i want to think about this. ok.

    Why does the god allow the fire to destroy the buliding(here church). If anybody intentionally burnt it down then he should have intervined. So why he didnt do that?

    You may think for youself that god allowed this to happen just to test the believers faith. Now think again.

    If god wanted to test the faith of the believers this way then why bring up such unnecessary communal tension between community that may lead to violence.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Zeitgeist,

    If you do not believe in God, It is upto you. I can not put faith in anybody. It is purely your choice, to believe in God or not.
    Just because you asked I give an instance to you.
    " A Lion is hungry, it is running to catch a deer for food. Of course Lion have to work for its food. It doesn't come automatically.
    But did the Lion create Deer?
    Did God not create deer as a food for Lion?
    Some part God has done. Some part Lion have to do.
    I just explained my belief, that's all.

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  • Rohit,

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    BJP likes playing with fire. They used fire to burn Christian people like Graham Staines and now use fire to burn Churches.

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Mr. Ramesh: Those people attacked Temples and personal attacks in the U.S. are caught and severely punished. But in India, when the minorities are attacked and Churches are burned, the political leverage will make the culprits to exit from proper punishment.

    If the killers of Graham Stains were in the U.S. as they did in Orissa, they would have been uted based on the U.S. laws.
    What happened to them?

    There will be misguided mentally sick people everywhere in the world, and they will do crimes against humanity but the deliberate attacks on Churches and poor Christian believers in India are so many from state to state like a nationwide problem when we look back to history.

    If those people who burned the Church building in New Delhi are not caught and punished, that will be too horrible to understand and it will remain as a red flag on the Government.

    So, people in India and around the world are watching this news with great attention. If a person with a Christian name is attacking a Temple or Mosque or any place of worship in front of me, in my capacity I will confront them without showing any mercy.

    Everybody has the right to speak about their religious faith or political ideology to somebody if the listener wants to listen, but nobody has the right to touch anybody's place of worship or party office.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    ..i agree with you..but my argument is not about supporting the culprits but argument is dont go by the assumption and say this is did by RSS/BJP/BD so on..there are so many shadowy elements which successive Govt/media not highlighting..moreover, i dont agree US is 100% perfect..a American christian priest threatened to burn Holybook & he set a date..did America took action initially?..its own freedom of expression laws prevented..Did you know many lives lost just by his statement? a American film on prophet circulated in youtube, did America took any action initially?..It took many months to block the movie..how many lives lost around the world because of this..i am 100% sure, INDIA would have better managed this & people would have in jail within a day..

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Do not justify Ramesh - Your stand is clear... Its a shame that we have people who till date are intolerant and justify radicalism.

    Its a pity that you have exposed your self.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    NM, I know your colour very well..dont pretend otherwise..each of my comments are published,let any one show where i supported culprits..

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    @Ramesh - your soft stance towards radicals and religious extremists says it all.. People are wise, they can read between the (your) lines.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    hahaha soft stance!!,,its you man whenever extermist names appears in media conveniently deny the fact..you still deny JI parivaar is ganegrous than Sangh parivaar..you still believe its central Govt hand in Burdwan blast..its your soft stand, which attracted youth to IRAQ/SYRIA..its your soft stands that brought hell elsewhere in the name of blasphemy..

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Who knows if its inside fight in chruch? Like kannada konkani fight in bangalore..even murders took place..first clean up then point others

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    People,

    Why are all of you are fighting over what might have happened. The way i see it as God could have stopped the fire. But he didn`t. I wonder why????

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Zeitgeist,
    Would you use the same words when so many Temples attacked or destroyed? It is not right.
    You mean to say, everything God should do or will do and humans will have nothing to do?
    Before our birth God gave us Air, Water, Land and Food for us.
    God gave parents and siblings to take care of us.
    In old age he gave us children to take care of us.
    Even Animals and birds, God programmed their minds to take care of young and needy.What God we can't do that God has done for us. What we need to do, that we are supposed to do.

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  • Rohit,

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    @ Zeitgeist

    Why is the fire of any concern to an atheist? Since when did atheists begin to value life?

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Rohit,

    How can you assume that an atheist does not value life anymore than a theist does. If you look back into history people have commited and still commit horrible crimes in the name of god.

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  • abdulla, india

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    If same would happen to A Hindu temple or a Mosque ..would they keep quiet ?
    how would they feel?
    Is this the India we want to live in ?
    PM Modi.....when you visit all Christian countries , how do they treat you?
    or for that matter all hindus living in every part of the world ask them how they feel or treated ..in those nations ...
    If that is ok... then why are we different...
    is this is the RELIGIOUS politicking you want to play?
    who are you?
    An indian like any of us....
    so, now step out and stay away...this will never happen again...
    All radicals ...vandalizers will be treated accordingly... this will not go unanswered..
    All radicals: like the RAM SEANAS.. BAJRANG DALS....so called HEROES and moral policing....should join the army and use their intelligence and energy to protect the nation from quietly being intruded by greta china... spend your time usefully there and not troubling PEACE loving Christians..
    SHAME on your guys...
    this is your culture..this is your Character..
    Disgrace..

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    What surprises us is that most of the time, whenever Churches are attacked
    i. Police will have no clue, dereliction of duty.
    ii. Probes are going on and on.
    iii.Blame games, accusations and counter accusations.
    iv. Finally when aggrieved Christians frustrate and blame Govt.
    v. Then counter blame will come on Christians and accuse them of conversions.

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  • Ravi, Bangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    WoW! Mr.KRPrabhu, Bengaluru... I am quite impressed about detailed report on the mangalore attacks... u must soon join investigation team and i am sure this case will be solved in no time )

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Mr.Ravi.Pl read other news papers also along with peeping into DW only....
    For all most all communal attacks/riots the root cause is CCC people...just study the facts carefully .You people are in the habit of accusing each and every thing including police peopleon communal angle without knowing the reasons for it......Now such forces are very active in the country and painting every thing by their communal brush.These people are not prone to powerless situation.....

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  • CYRIL MASCARENHAS, KIREM/MIRA ROAD/DUBAI

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    NOW TELL MODI TO REBUILT THE CHURCH..THERE IS NO POINT OF ORDERING PROBE,IF ORDERED NOTHING WILL COMES OUT.

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  • Suleman Beary, Udupi

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    It is very unfortunate to hear and witness place of worship being burned. The real culprit should be brought to justice. If any of the political party is thinking and taking advantage of the situation should be shown the lesson by not voting their candidates in Delhi election. Such acts should be considered as terrorism and loss to the public property. All those criminals should be strictly dealt with harsh punishment.

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  • anoop, kerala

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Its the fact that Christians are minorities in india but no one has the right to treat christians or any others minorities like animals. Guys please type "attacks made by christians in india" on google search and the result will show the fact. Christians are not taught to attack others or to burn down religious institutions or to burn people alive. Use your religion and political believes within you to do good to people instead of showing your strength by burning down sacred places and by illtreating minorities. Teach activists of every political parties out there to see people as people not as a tagged person of an opposite party.

    Mr Modi I hope you would have taken necessary action against such cruelty, If you havent then i am requesting you on behalf of each and every indians to take severe action against these culprits and stop such crimes from happening in the future and make India a peaceful place to live.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    When the Congress came to power in Karnataka last year, immediately
    released all the church attackers. What is the reason ?. Think

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Who has done this ?

    1. Is it hindu organizations as suspected by our minority brothers, if they have done then just putting water on BJP / Modi ambition to get a presence in Goa, kerala and North East. Its nothing but Zero gain and tarnished image for bjp.

    2. Other Political parties to drive fear and isolate BJP from minorities ?

    3. External Enemies of India to create disturbances and division ?

    4. Some purely Lunatic or Insane person just for fun ?

    5. Any insider involvement, which cannot be ruled out for some gains or grudge ?

    6. Some fundamentalists to spread persecution propaganda to tarnish the image of majority ?

    7. Purely accidental and a lack of safety issue

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Well siad Mr.Jayanth.In incident is appears to be big conspirecy to tarnish the image of majority community....and lust for lost political power AT ANY COST.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..A S Mathew, do you think its not happening in your USA/AUSTRALIA/CANADA!!..Who attacked Hindu temple in NY..who vandalised temples in CANADA, who attacked Sikh temple & killed sikh devotees..who are targetting sikhs & calling them as OSAMAs son..who attacked recently very elderly sikh in USA & broke his nose..i saw in youtube..are they not CHRISTIANS!!! why hate crimes are rising in your host country?...Dont paint beautiful picture...Dont be a saint, Dont give sermon either knowing the truth..Do you know how many riots happened in UP,WB,ASSAM under non BJP Govt & how many temples burnt/Hindus killed..in every country there are fringe groups which evade police & do unlawful things..dont propogate it happens only when particular group comes to power..

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    So in other words you are justifying and supporting these attacks on churches.

    With a few more people like you,India will have tough days ahead.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    ..Here we go..who justified the attack!!..its only a argument, that why RSS/BJP is prefixed for the incident? without getting even preliminary investigation..i will say its JI parviaar act, do you agree?

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  • varun, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    you want the list of committed christian leaders ruing other countries?? Start from Iraq..If Saddam was alive, there would not have been this menace called ISIS.. who killed saddam? why was iraq attacked? weapons of mass destruction, eh?! where is it?!! committed religious people are no less dangerous.. does not matter he is christian or not.. history of full such acts..goa and Portuguese history is one such example

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  • ravi, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ache din for minorities

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  • HELEN DSOUZA, MUMBAI/KUWAIT/MANGALORE

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    This is very bad, they are doing, why to hurt the Religion and disturb the hearts of the faithful, May GOD bless them and open their hearts and eyes. Amen

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    INDIAN, Mangalore: What you have said is absolutely correct.

    These attacks on the Churches and the mistreatment of the minority Christians etc are seen all over the world in seconds.

    If Mr. Modi can't give a picture of India as a peaceful country where all religious people are living in peace, then all his big dreams of Foreign Direct Investments by the billions will not be materialized. Those jobless wayward street rowdies don't know that open reality so for their fun, they attack the defenseless Christians. What a great accomplishment?

    The new U.S. Foreign Relation Committee Chairperson who is a very rich man went to Haiti to help the poor people due to his Christian love for the suffering people. Never met him personally, but some of my friends are his friends, they gave me a vivid picture of his personality.

    Many of the foreign leaders Mr. Modi met recently like the British Prime Minister and the Prime Minister of Australia are very committed Christian believers.
    Australian PM is a Rhodes Scholar, finally he went to a Catholic seminary and though not a priest, but a very committed Christian believer, showed real Christian love towards Mr. Modi and hugged him when they met recently. These Christian persecution will reach their ears, and will be creating a bad image for India.

    So, Mr. Modi has to take very strong actions to stop the persecution of the minorities, especially the defenseless Christian minorities because from time to time, they were the political target and scapegoats, which can't be tolerated any longer.

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  • Ratheesh Ronald Fernandes, Mangalore/Vamadapadavu

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Wait......let us see.... is modi the prime minister of INDIA or still belongs to some religion......I'm not blaming bjp government for this and no one should. .....but I'm asking bjp government...especially our PM to take serious action on this.....

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..Minorities are very much safe in INDIA compared to any Asian/ME countries,thanks to Majorities who are born secular..In INDIA not only minority religious places attacked there are temples attacked/burned in state likes kashmir,WB,UP which is poorly highlighted..In India majorities keeping silence for atrocities comitted on them religious & politically..Its Center/state collective duty safeguard both..But sadly, without investigation every time due to sickular mind set only one section of community highlighted as victim & one as culprit..problem is, in INDIA political parties successfully instilled in the minds of minorities unknown fear of majorities & used as vote machine from long time..Sickular parties gets votes on only on secular/communal debate not on Development/employment basis..Hence, they try to tag BJP & its supporters as born communal by creating atmosphere of hatred for each & every incident and reap fruit..

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Mr. Ramesh, Mangalore: Sir, your sermon of comparative religious tolerance is very questionable!

    After Mr. Yeddyurappa came into power, in the month of July 2008, 14 attacks were taken place on the same day at the Churches. Great religious safety? I have watched them through U-tube, very troubling scenes of pure insanity and street rowidism!

    Why, can you explain that? Why there is not any organized attack now? Some jobless street rowdies saw fun in attacking the people worshiping inside their own Church buildings, a bunch of police followed them and started beating the innocent believers. Do you think that the minorities are safe in India? You need not have to compare tolerance and safety level with the rest of the Asian countries. Every believer of any religion has their fundamental right to practice and spread their religion, as long as they will not endanger others physically through any force that is the fundamental human right!

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  • jacintha, middle east

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    justice somashekar is on duty again?

    there seems to be a strong connection to ruling party and church attacks - Karnataka(Mangalore), India (Delhi)

    The first one is established to be state sponsored (supported let us say)
    What about the second one?

    Going by the data - ...

    Church burning is surely a curse - for that matter - destroying any place, which is of community use, peace and happiness is a curse - it could be temple, church, mosque or prayer hall.

    People reap what they sow, I hope in this case the fruits of their sowing are visible early.

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  • Ram Shetty, India

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    There is a lot of hatred preached by RSS, VHP and it's ruling BJP party and this is the outcome of that hatred.

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Wed, Dec 3 2014

    Mr. Ram Shetty: You are correct.

    Our words can be turned as swords or healing hands. These radical religious organizations inject the gullible masses with the message of killing and hatred, the preachers will leave the pulpit to deliver another hate sermon somewhere else. In the mean time, the street people are radically charged with the spirit of hatred, destruction and killings and will try to put into action what they heard from the war mongers. Thus the show is going on. None of the people who did inject the virus of hatred will get wounded, but the gullible public undertake the dangerous job of killing themselves and others!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dear Ramesh S, mangalore,

    Where does the verdict comes with a fake report of church attacks and without ordering probe on church who lit the fire.

    We are concerned about the safety of Christians and our worship places all over India.
    I quote yours: In Kerala, a hindu boy & Muslim girl who married recently running for their life.no media coverage/ no debate!!.Unquote.
    You are commenting about love affairs of citizens. We can comment relentlessly about such cases. It is not one or two or three, there are many such cases but I am commenting about the churches attacks and hampering of churches by litting firel

    Dear KRPrabhuji I also quote from this news :On Sunday November 30, two house churches in Annupur district of Madhya Pradesh were attacked. Earlier in November, catholic priests in the Bastar region in Chhatisgarh were told all their schools were to install statues of Goddess Saraswati and they would not be allowed to be called “Father”, the usual honorific, by the students, but would be called “Acharya”. In other districts of Chhartisgarh, village panchayats under political influence have passed regulations banning non-Hindu religious persons from organising prayers or opening places of worship in their territory. Unquote.

    Is it not a forcible action to be carried out by the Christians only because of the fundamentals of BJP and RSS to place statues of gods and goddesses in the premises?

    What can I expect from you being a RSS supporter. The RSS hated Christians since and then pre-independence and still they hate Christians.
    RSS is like Naanu Kumbala kaai Kaddhillaappa antha hegalu oresutthiddha Bhoopa.

    Naa
    Some of your comments are your own illusions and from where you get all these bluffs.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    IF WE ANALYSIS KARNATAKA CHURCH ATTACK IT IS DESPARATE ATTEMPT OF KHANGRESS TO RULE DELHI....

    WHOEVER INVOLVED ( BJP/KHANGRESS/ TERROR OUTFITS ) MUST BE PUNISHED AT ANY COST...

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  • Surendra Poojari, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Nothing can be ruled out under BJP governance. Under BJP rule in Karnataka, BJP chamchas attacked churches and now in Delhi BJP chamchas burnt the church. The day is not far when whole nation will be burning due to BJP chamchas.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Poojari or who ever you may be, do you need list of communal riots under Congress rule..do you know what is happening in UP & WB..its sickulars who are doing this & reeping profit..sooner they realise better for them..

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  • Surendra Poojari, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    So Ramesh, if congress does communal riots, that means BJP also need to follow the same? I know you feel bad if your party is accused. But fact remains the same. There is no difference between Congress and BJP. But if I criticise BJP you feel bad and if I criticise congress you feel happy. This is hypocricy. Use your commonsense and brain if you have.

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  • Syed Mohiudin, Iruvail/Riyadh

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Latest plan to put economically back steps to the minorities. Delhi,Gangolli etc....etc...

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  • Mel, Manglore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Please stop destroying worship places for vote bank. No political party cares about Christian community because of our votes doesn’t count or make any changes as we are just 3 percent.

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  • CYRIL MASCARENHAS, KIREM/MIRA ROAD/DUBAI

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    BE CAREFUL..!BLACK DAYS ARE AHEAD FOR THE CHRISTENS..

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Only one request, before blaming, cursing and inviting the intervention of God's wrath in the form of disaster on a particular community wait for the outcome of the probe.

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Well said Mr.Jayanth.Peaceful people is always jump to he colclusion with prejudiced mindset.

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  • raghavendra m k, mumbai maharashtra

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Last week only slums area of minority population was bulldozed in delhi. Yesterday prayer hall of christian community church has gutted by mysterious fire. These all happen while elections are nearing. Delhi election is approaching. See their game plan at moradabad riots before the general election. This all well planned destructive act by so called religious chauvinist to divide the minority and majority on religious line to gain the politically. How minister MOS very comfortable giving communal ( hatred )after accepting oath under indian constitution which is secularist in character.This communalist should punished and banned.

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Vincy: Correct! Something very mysterious and supernatural are fermenting underneath.

    15000 people, mainly the Christians blocked the traffic at one of the busiest road in Delhi for 2 hours.

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  • vincy, Bangkok

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    The consequences will be seen in few days.
    The culprits are going to deny and disown thier leaders.
    It is going to be a situation like how naturam godse denied his alliance.

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Since this was taken place in Delhi in front of Mr. Modi, he can't say any excuse and hide behind the curtain.

    He has to show his real personality and stand, to catch the culprits and punish them without any political favor. Indeed, a real test of his secular political vision, also the safety assurance of the minorities in India especially the Christian community.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..infront of MODI!!..do you want MODI guard every religious place..Did any sickular PMs guarded any Hundu temples when its attacked/Bombed!!..its KEJRIWAL mehrabani there is no state Govt in Delhi..he & his sickular parties much to gain from this incident not MODI..Moreover,what if tomorrow investigation reveals its due to internal feud between church management as it happened in Bangalore!!

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Sir, you are reading a blank board.
    Did I say that Mr. Modi has to put guards in front of every Church building in India?

    I have said very plainly and affirmatively that Mr. Modi has to take strong initiative and action to find the culprits. I believe, you understood my plain logic now.
    The persecution of the minority Christians and the destruction of their places of worship in India must be stopped.

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  • Indian, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Ramesh, your English says it all!! Do you know the meaning of In front of Modi?? How many incidents happened in Delhi when there were other PMs? It is true that this is the biggest test for Modi since he is the PM now. He already supported RSS misusing the Doordarshan but this is going to be very tricky for him. Do you know there was no problems when my Christian friends coming with me to Sharavu temple and when I go to Attur Church in Karkala? Now Bajrangis and Your beloved Ram Sena headed by a Tamilian made Mangalore a rough city. Do you really love India and want to see India as the strongest country? No country in the world became powerful being communal. India's resources would wasted to solve the communal problems if we do not get up now and realise that we all have to live here together or else we will be fighting forever like Israelis and Palestinians.

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  • Judith L, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 11 2014

    Very Well said Indian

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  • sandeep, dubai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    If you see in pakistani news chanel also covered this news they saying modi came power again riot started.this church incident still no one came to see or give justice to christian community.

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  • Roshan, Mangaluru

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    These things were expected.

    1] Delhi earlier saw a riot kind of situation. Luckily it did not flare up with the efforts of community leaders.

    2] AMU vs BJP, where suddenly BJP realised to honour one donor. Since media covered the event and VC took the right step, warning central govt. BJP had to climb down.

    3] Now with this church burning.

    There is a sequence and there is political agenda, which is played over and over again now become more than obvious, who is behind it.

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    This looks like the handiwork of some Khangress miscreants to create communal tension so the current regime can be blamed. Who else would benefit from such deeds. Lets hope they are caught at the earliest and jacked in their right places.
    Who would benefit from such

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    LINGAPPA, Read the Fourth para after File Photo "On Sunday November 30, two house churches in Annupur district of Madhya Pradesh were attacked. Earlier in November, catholic priests in the Bastar region in Chhatisgarh were told all their schools were to install statues of Goddess Saraswati and they would not be allowed to be called “Father”, the usual honorific, by the students, but would be called “Acharya”. In other districts of Chhartisgarh, village panchayats under political influence have passed regulations banning non-Hindu religious persons from organising prayers or opening places of worship in their territory". What more proof do you want ...

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Lingappa: Let the culprits be caught and punished, if your vague prediction is true, they must be double punished. So, don't make any assumptive prediction now.

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  • Mangalorean, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Lingappanna, by the way what religion you practice in Amsterdam?? Anyone asked you to convert or you just went because India during Congress rule is not good for you?? For your information, there is BJP government now and you can come back and we all will welcome and always call you ACHARYA.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dear Ramesh S, mangalore,

    Inquiry reports conducted must be based on facts and not from the fictions whichever and whoever order the probe by the congress or bjp or CPI.

    The truth is before you after the church attacks of the falsified report of Somashekar.

    Dear Ramesh S, mangalore,

    You mean to say there were no church attacks or no arson on Sebastian church which the christians are asking for a thorough probe.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..Definitely there is arson since it is reported that kerosene found at the church..but i object to the comments where for each & everything finger pointed towards RSS/BJP..how come this, when there is no evidence!!..moreover,this incident doesnt help BJP but helps all sickular parties..since, elections nearer there is possibility of sickular parties doing all sorts of nuisance to play with minority sentiment..they also feed,help & grow JI parivaar which creating havoc in every state..but no one speaks..recent example is WB, when Burdwan blast took 2 lives state Govt said victims are one from majority & one from minority..But NIA investigation revealed they are terrorist both from minority community & familiies also accepted..In Kerala, a hindu boy & Muslim girl who married recently running for their life..no media coverage/ no debate!!..now who is hiding the fact & who is supporting deadly fringe groups..every successive Govts d terror group list,just check the available list who is who..there is larger conspiracy by sickular groups, unfortunately communities paying price..

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dear Ramesh S, mangalore,

    I am commenting about church attacks report and Church arsonel.

    Not about your communal affairs and love affairs of citizens.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..my comment much about fire/attack..and your predetermination of culprits & giving verdicts..

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Mr.Joseph,Welcome to the das of communalism.Dont jump to the conclusion by naming BJP or others before the police/other enquiry/probe.You can not rule out this as a case of case vengence against Modiji's govt/BJP by oppinents(?) in view of forthcoming election to Delhi.We have enough cases to indicate such acts of vengence against ruling govt just defame them specially in Mangalore three years back when BJP was ruling.In similar case of vandalism at Kankanady Alphose church few yrs back intitially church priests rushed to Press club to air their grievence instead of police.When police took action for enquiry it came to light there was undergarment of lady in the place and act of vandalism was related to that.Immepediate the people who conducted press meet rushed to police to stop frther action which will defame church people.In Managlore at Chembugudde masjid one night people threw stones and damaged the window panels and blame was on BJP as it was ruling.During police enquiry it was found that act was by own community people and reason was obvious.Enquiry made tuss.....everybody knows why.Nowadays Congress mafuas are active in such acts to defame BJP govt.If such do not do that they dont get reason to blame Modiji or BJP....this is what is happening.Anyhow,the act of burning the worship place like church is condemnable wish that law should take its own course and crimnals be brought to book who ever they may be.

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  • Mangalorean, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Prabhu, You stated that BJP do not do these things during elections. Would you please able to ask your beloved leader Lal Krishna Advani, where is his Ratha Yatra gone recently? He do not get any political benefit now and hence no rath yatra otherwise, there was a rath yatra for every election. Don't act smart mate...

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Ratha yathra is a part resentment and struggle for restoration of Ram Mandir demolished by sickulars ...dont pretend and interpret others protests for your convenience.

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  • Aubb, Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    @ Hari,

    Give an example of Christians in India burning a Christian church first, and then bla bla bla....

    You are trying to hide something which you know very well is not the right thing that happened to a Christian church.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Aubb, i think its work of JI parivaar & its brotherhood from Bangladesh..they are very active in Delhi,WB,UP,KERALA..one who resides in Delhi knows how these people chock traffic on friday & sunday night..how they resort to voilence for each & everything..i am not hiding the fact that sickular parties making use of these fringe group to tarnish image of BJP & get vote..simple..

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..It is the handy work of sickular parties just to defame BJP & garner vote..A fool can say its BJP/RSS work, since it only spoils central BJP Govts image nationally!..now who is getting benefit from burning minority religious places,its sickular parties..there is no scarcity of people to burn buildings for few bucks..whenever BJP tries to come nearer to some minority section this will happen..it happened DK & elsewhere..moreover, all sickular parties ganged up in parliament to corner BJP Govt on riots..then how come BJP will give an opportunity to opposition by attacking religious place?..Moreover, whenever incidents like this takes political turns justice delayed,denied..

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dear Hari, Mangalore,

    I quote yours:Who told that, Dear this is the problem in between "latin catholic" and "syro malabar". Unquote.

    Is this your presumption to twist the subject?!

    Of course in Mangalore nobody have attacked the churches yet the video shows churches were attacked.

    Now don't tell me these videos were edited.

    After some time the communal party will say this was a short circuit brains of BJP

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  • Premanathay, udupi

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ACCHE DIN..

    BURNING THE MOSQUES..
    BURNING AND ATTACKING THE CHURCHES...

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    IF BJP WANTS TO WIN ELECTIONS IN DELHI, MODI HAS TO ORDER PROBE OR ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY & APOLOGIZE ...

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  • Hari, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Who told that, Dear this is the problem in between "latin catholic" and "syro malabar". please don't blatantly tell any thing. this happens only because of complex in between to two type of christians... Why MODI want to take responsibility

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    HARI, YOU SEEM TO BE EXPERIENCED IN CATHOLIC AFFAIRS. NOW TELL US WHO LIT THE FIRE ...

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dear Hari, Mangalore,

    Why then did you hurried to your assumptions and presumptions prior to investigations?!

    As Jossey clearly specified i quote:HARI, YOU SEEM TO BE EXPERIENCED IN CATHOLIC AFFAIRS. NOW TELL US WHO LIT THE FIRE ...Unquote.

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  • KA D'Silva, Dubai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    all we have requested is Proper Probe, but question is why you are so much of afraid for probe?
    NO fire without smoke !

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  • Hari, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Why we want to Communalise all things... Please wait for finishing investigation.

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  • Dr S Kamath, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dont Communalise everything.Come out pf your communal mindset.Let there be a thorough probe and then blame the culprit.What is the relationship between winning elections? Accept,apologise etc

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Manglaore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Dear Dr S Kamath, Mumbai,

    OfCourse we need a thorough probe of the arson of St Sebastian's Church not like Church attacks probes of Rtd. Judge SummaneShikaar./Somshekar.

    Has the arson of church probe ordered???!!!

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    ..if you wont believe in report of BJP aapointed panel, then why i should believe reports of Congress nominated panel!!!..in some point some where we have to believe some one..

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Look who is talking!!

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  • Observer, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 2 2014

    Who else? Gobble.

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