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Udupi: Dalits' Conversion to Buddhism Adds No Benefit to Status – Pejavar Swamiji


                                                                     
Udupi: Dalits' Conversion to Buddhism Adds No Benefits to Status – Pejavar Swamiji

Daijiworld Media Network – Udupi (SP)

Udupi, May 24: “In my opinion, becoming Buddhists will not offer any added benefits for the dalits. If we exclude the dalits, the population of Buddhists in India is meagre. Hence, I don’t foresee any marked shift in the state of affairs of dalits after they change their religion. They will continue as they are now,” felt Sri Vishweshateertha Swamiji of Pejavar Mutt.

He was reacting to a programme being organized by Dalit Sangharsh Samiti in association with other organizations here on May 24, in which over 2,000 dalits are scheduled to desert Hinduism and embrace Buddhism.

“What do you get out of this conversion, as far as the issue of untouchability is concerned? This will destroy the dalit culture that has come through tradition, which will be a loss for the dalits,” he opined.

He said he does not mind the dalits joining Buddhism, as it is a part of Hinduism. He added that he welcomes the dalits becoming Buddhists instead of getting converted into Christianity, Islam, etc, in the interests of nationality and Hinduism. He observed that aspects like worship of idols, belief systems about sin and good virtues (Punya), heaven and hell, rebirth etc, which the intellectuals refer to as superstitions, exist in Buddhism too. The Swamiji offered to ordain the dalits into Bhaktiism (devotional path) or Vaishnavism (devotion to Lord Vishnu) under two different categories, one in which there are no strictures except the chanting of hymns, and the other, in which they are barred from consuming liquor and non-vegetarian food. In the first category, they will be equal to any other Hindu, while in the other, they will get elevated positions. In both cases, they will be able to get rid of untouchability tag, he analyzed.

He invited those who want to get this Deeksha, to inform the manager, Sri Pejavar Mutt, Vijayadhwaja Mandir, Udupi, to enable the Mutt to fix a suitable date for their admission into these sects under Hinduism.

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  • Pankaj, Bhusawal , Maharashtra

    Tue, May 5 2015

    very correctly said man.

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  • tsewang, ladakh

    Thu, May 26 2011

    I dont know how many people really know the meaning of religion ...:religion doesnt means god it meanmn the way to liberate oneself from suffering .what u said is true but you should aslo know that he is the enlightened one and not anyone who is just borned and said wat ever he wants .his teaching are the truth n his teaching seems to b the only way in this world to get peace. people are filled with so hatred they they kill other human fellow by planting bo,mbs, hijacking planes n killing thousands of innocent human being.its just a matter of time n one day evryone hav to b a buddhist coz as u said its the way to lead life n no matter wat we beleive n follow tommorow we all will know the real truth n we will follow the foot steps of the buddha.budhism teaches kindness, peace, harmony and its just so true that not a single of blood has been shed in the name ogf the Buddha .swamiji if u are saying nothing will change for u dalits then its ur mind set thats making people go crazy with such ill ideas. hiope u will find peace in saying and doing so

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  • Hariprasad Hedge, Mangalore

    Wed, May 25 2011

    Swami you focus on pooja instead of creating hatred between religion and people....

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  • Santhosh Bhandary, Mangalore

    Wed, May 25 2011

    Dear Mr. Ramesh, Udupi. I have no reason to comment with someone else's identity. This is my real name and I am a hindu. I am proud to be a hindu but I am a progressive and broad minded hindu. For me no religion is superior or inferior. For me all religions are equal and I give utmost importance to communal harmony. This narrow minded and fanatic religious thinking is no good for anybody especially in a secular country like ours.

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  • Ramesh, udupi

    Wed, May 25 2011

    Santhosh Bhandary, Mangalore
    Ram Shetty, Mangalore
    better come up with your actual name...Swamiji is having all right to speak, this is Democracy my friend!!...statement hurts the wrong people then people should accept the change!!
    Please refrain from making nonsense such statements!!

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  • Santhosh Bhandary, Mangalore

    Wed, May 25 2011

    With due respect to dear Swamiji I would like to say: Please refrain from giving provocative statements especially in these sensitive times. Instead use your high and respectable status in society to bring about communal harmony and peace between all communities. This way people of all communities and religions will continue to love and respect you even more.

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  • Aman, Mangalore

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Onething I have noticed here in Daijiworld....people doesnt have  work other than giving silly comments about the religion & dirty politics.I wish if they can spend same amount of time for their family.

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  • Indian, Indian

    Tue, May 24 2011

    if you don't know all developed nations still practice untouchability and segregation. Britain, USA, Australia, Europe.. u name it. Tell me a single developed country which doesn't practice segregation.

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  • Ram Shetty, Mangalore

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Swami, why are you worried? it is there wish they felt Buddhism is better then our Religion...

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  • Bulsam, Mangalore

    Tue, May 24 2011

    If Pejavar swamy knew this then why there were vernas in Hinduism?

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  • Calvin N, Surathkal/USA

    Tue, May 24 2011

    In other Pejawar seer is saying that being a Christian or Muslim is anti national? This is really disappointing to see.

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  • Suresh, Karnataka

    Tue, May 24 2011

    i think lack of knowledge and only enemy of india only talk like this.
    i don't. understand why only this in India. other country want to come up. but our people talking nonsense.
    One Think we must understand our first " RELIGION " is Mother India.

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  • Hafeez, kaup/dubai

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Religion is very much personal, if someone make business out of it, can't help it ? I visit lot of  areas countries were Buddhism is a major religion, people practice it with devotion and great purity, countries like china, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam and even Singapore.

    For your kind information, Buddhism is not a religion, Buddhism is way of life, WHERE THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF GOD, like all other major religions. Buddhism did not define the God, they says, good thought, good deed and good Acts is Buddhism, do your best not think for the result. help the needy and feel for their pain and agony. Buddhism was and is this not accepted by the Hindu society that is the reason Buddhism was/is wiped out from the land of it origination.

    They are very much very different than Hinduism. Gotham Buddha is a not God nor messenger of God, he was philosopher, guide and teacher who shown the world is greed is the cause of all the human suffering.
    It was never part of Hinduism.

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Tue, May 24 2011

    The honorable Pejavar Swamiji: Those people didn't leave Hinduism
    and embraced Buddhism for changing
    their status. They may have the same social status now,
    but now they are in a
    different horizon of total freedom
    atleast in their worship in a
    new religious setting.

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  • Shaleen, Mangalore/Dubai

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Shahnawas, Kukkikatte,

    "Koowe ka mendak kuch bhi soch sakhta hai", you are one of such kind. Before commenting know about Hindism & Buddism and its similiarities.

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  • Kurt Waschnig, Oldenburg/Germany

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Conversions are a very sensitive issue in India.
    It creates heat and passion.
    Dalits decided to convert into Buddhism.
    It is their own decision and wish.
    It shall be respected.
    No one knows whether they will find a better life.

     

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  • Salvador Noronha, Omzoor/mumbai/kuwait

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Conversion is a major issue for our political class today than it was earlier. If a person cannot worship his/her prayers in peacefull surroundings or his
    choice where everbody is equal. nobody can fool todays generation so keep keep relegion as our private property.

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  • Alfred Vincent Monis, Bantakal/Kingdom of Bahrain

    Tue, May 24 2011

    My secular friends please explain the meaning of :
    1.Dalit Christians
    2.Sardi/Gowndy and bamun.

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  • vincy, shamboor/Bangkok

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Ashok Dubai says, its better to become Buddist instead of getting converted into Christianity, Islam, etc…can you explain who ask you people to convert ? Do you mean to prove that Buddism is superior? It’s the people like you created a situation where these people had to wait outside temples and had to eat on leaves and clean the floor by cowdung at your verandas .
    It is a perfect decision by the Dalits as of now they have all freedom at Buddhist temples. The Swamiji's comments are too late now ,he should have worked on this earlier instead of attending state sponsored events.The people here are not worried of they joining Buddhism but more worried of to whom they will vote hereafter.

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  • MELVY PINTH, MANGALORE

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Dear Swamiji,
    With due repect:
    1. GOD made man, man made religion.
    2. All are human beings and humanity comes first.
    3. It is one's personal belief, faith, devotion towards
    GOD and not just getting rid of dalit tag.
    4. Very sad even now you are talking about untouchability and dalits and getting rid of dalit tag.
    5. This had come up only after 2000 hindus crossed over to buddism.....?

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  • shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Wah, another theory to suit the need and timings... Adige biddaroo moogu mele... In buddhism there is no caste system, if there is no caste, then any buddhist is a buddhist. We can only call a rich or poor buddhist. But no way we can call a shudra buddhist or aryan buddhist... We can read from the article that dalits are being called to embrace hinduism by adminsitering deeksha. After getting the sermons, can they officiate the rituals in mutts and temples??? Will they be allowed inside the holy sanctum of mutts and temples??/ Do they have to remove their footwears in front of aryans homes??/ Do they have to take a humiliating posture when talking to aryans??? Do they have to scream "ayya" "ayya" when talking to aryans?? Can they eat in the same row along with aryans?? Will aryans drink from the pots carried by these dalits? Lots of questions need to be answered. From the observations one can make out that this seer has lots of venom in him against muslims and christians. Are they not Indians like him? Are they not human beings like him. This devide and rule policy must be stopped. The varna system itself is a indegenously found devide and rule policy. Its worst than the britishs political divide and rule policy. Dalits please get up. U r the original inhabitants of our great nation... Fight four rights and u will and shall prevail. Dont allow just 5% of our population to dominate and rule over you. March forward..

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  • b.k.shetty, jeddah aroor

    Tue, May 24 2011

    swamiji's statement is 100%perfect in the interest of the nation as well mankind.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai / Mapusa

    Tue, May 24 2011

    What a National Shame!!!!!
    Are we in the 18th century or 21st century to talk about Untouchablity?
    All developed nations must be having a big laugh at our immaturity and stupidity.
    No wonder we Indians are still referred as a land of snake charmers.
    Shame on you guys.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Tue, May 24 2011

    I fully agree your points swamiji,
    Your points must be discussed by every 1. Keep it up swamiji!
    HENRY MISQUITH

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  • Tony Pinto, Mumbai - Dubai

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Well said Swamiji.......or they would be called DALIT CHRISTIAN i don't know why Lancelot N. Tauro, Manglore - Doha Qatar is upset with out benefit no one will change RELIGION.............. everything is fair for survival as long you gain something by changing religion.

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  • Ashok, Udupi/Dubai

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Swamiji you are 100% right. In the interest of nationality and Hinduism, its better to become Buddist instead of getting converted into Christianity, Islam, etc. We all should respect the culture & tradition of our land. Our culture & tradition was not started by Shri Shri Pejavar Swamiji or any political party. It is our history. So we can not blame anyone. Thanks to Swamiji & all Hindu organization for the changes made in our religion according to the current situation.

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  • Doddanna, Damaskatte

    Tue, May 24 2011

    If Swamiji is concerned about number of Hindus in India or abroad, he should not be worried, becuase hindus will increase in number for more than a century in future. India will have another billion added in another 50 years. so why worry? But I do not agree that Dalits do not gain anything by becoming Buddhists, because in Buddhism no such thing as caste system whereas in Hindusim it is strong and prevailing. Doddanna

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  • Lancelot N. Tauro, Manglore - Doha Qatar

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Conversions to Buddhism, no benefits to status, Untouchablity, whatz all this? Are they not human bieng like us dear Seer.

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  • Diwakar, Bangalore

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Appears to be worried with deserting acts of dalits. By embrasing to Buddhism, his community will be untouchable. Look at his arrogance. He does not have problem in conversion but does not want to give equal status of Brahmins. Surprising is to see the invention of two more castes Bhaktiism or Vaishavism may be imported from some other planet. Dear Sadu.. first learn to value Humanism and accept all the mankind as equals if you got some wisdom as you being swami. Have you noticed nowadays many from upper castes including Brahmins are converted to Chirstians.. What do you say on this.

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  • Raj, Udupi

    Tue, May 24 2011

    Well said Swamiji.......

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